hoen is ok!!

[Dadano]

Originally posted by Stoney74
Where does this line of reasoning come from?  If I'm trying to duck the inevitable LA-7, Mossie, P-38, Spit, etc. HO shot, and they hit me despite my best efforts to avoid it, I'll get on 200 and call them out.  It takes only one to make a HO shot.  It takes two to Co-HO.

Never duck, never go nose down; Easy shot for a ho tard if done late. 1st rule to a good merge is creating separation and then your lead turn timing. Usually I come in crossing the tard, say 30 degrees, with my wing pointing at him, creating a low profile snapshot for him. I'm already nose up, 1/3 the way around, when he takes his sissy shot.

The logic is simply, if my guns are not on his when we cross, then no ho can take place. I RARELY die to a head on shot.

[LYNX]

oCmustard...you are showing me 2 things in this thread.  1) Talentless ability.  2) Lake of self confidence.  You need to get with the plot.o

i consider a ho clean as long as there's no collisions involved its a clean kill in my book

oGranted some Ho's are unavoidable as in a 1 on 3 or 4.  Sooner or later you'll be forced to turn which will put you in the path of one of the 3 or 4. However, to actually start out in a merge ---->  <----- is just plain skilless and dumb.  And whats with the collide thing that you seem to think is worse.o

that being said if ur going head on with the person u cant turn right or hell turn and now hes on ur tail+u cant turn left or hell be on ur tail

oWhat a complete load of rubbish.  Mustard me old fruit you showed a bit of promise an ability to improve.  Seems you've given up or your being coerced to be the sacrificial lamb.  Either way I KNOW you have it in you to improve.  Look...I get Ho merged hourly and it's a rare occasion I'm actually shot and more often than not it's me on their skilless dumb arse after the first turn.  Yer, SOME will run but so what.  You going to be dumb enough to chase them to the weeds or be dragged under 3 or 4 of his friendlies or are you going to keep ya smarts?o

oAnother thing whats with "pick"?  This word is used far to frequently in the WRONG context.  Some folk use that word as some kind of excuse others use it because they have no clue what a pick really is.  Ditch the use of the words "pick" and "gangs".  Use and BELIEVE in the words "situation awareness" and "target rich environment"o.

oGet back on coarse lad.  I know you can do it.o

[FBplmmr]

Originally posted by Cmustard
Mommy wouldn't buy me Halo3

[Nimrod45]

Originally posted by Stoney74
Where does this line of reasoning come from?  If I'm trying to duck the inevitable LA-7, Mossie, P-38, Spit, etc. HO shot, and they hit me despite my best efforts to avoid it, I'll get on 200 and call them out.  It takes only one to make a HO shot.  It takes two to Co-HO.

It takes two to HO, period.  It takes one to make a angles shot on a plane coming toward you.  If your oponent is avoiding then it is no longer a HO.
How dare anyone shoot anyone anywhere but the six!!!!!!!!!!!

[storch]

Originally posted by Nimrod45
It takes two to HO, period.  It takes one to make a angles shot on a plane coming toward you.  If your oponent is avoiding then it is no longer a HO.
How dare anyone shoot anyone anywhere but the six!!!!!!!!!!!

nope you are wrong it takes one to HO.  here is an example.  yesterday early EST on the pizza map I was looking for fights over a bish base.  there was one other rook player there.  we didn't pork radar we circled away from the field.  three players upped, they were allowed plenty of time to get co alt.  I was in a 110G they all upped a combination of La7s and spit16s.  they were shot down each time being allowed to up with the same courtesy.  by the third fight all three of them lined up and all three HO'd I dodged the first two.  but on every encounter they were manuevering to set up a HO.  that is why they die so easily even to a pig of a plane like the 110.

I guess I need to improve on dodging the endless conveyor belt of the HO darlings.

however you guys are correct, the HO is here to stay.  generally speaking if a player attempts to HO me and I survive that pass on the next pass I'll make a frontal quarter shot where he can't shoot back and laugh at the whine that is sure to follow on 200 where that player will often express indignation at being HO'd.

[SunBat]

I know I'm in for a good fight when I merge with someone and they don't try to HO me....  The ones that try to HO usually find themselves dead after a pass or two.  Funny how that works....

[Max]

Originally posted by SunBat
I know I'm in for a good fight when I merge with someone and they don't try to HO me....  The ones that try to HO usually find themselves dead after a pass or two.  Funny how that works....

So true.

[Carwash]

Originally posted by Cmustard
A ho is a clean shot ather u win or u loose! As long as u colide ho's are perfectly fine no matter what people say about it because fact of matter is that ww2 pilots hoed ,everyone hoed in the war but my main topic from the beginning in typing this Topic was to tell people hoeing really isnt a bad thing!:D

My conclusion from reading this thread:

Mustard should spend more time on school work, and less time in AH.

[shamroc]

Originally posted by Max
So true.

To me, the biggest tell-tale mark of a dweeb is a guy that comes down at you, with E, and he goes for a HO (instead of going high, repositioning and getting a six angle).  When I see a guy set up for a HO like that, I giggle, because I know an easy kill is coming my way.

Shamroc

[pluck]

There are times, usually when fighting multiple cons, that HOing might be considered a good option.  The HO was used in ww2, fortunately we are playing a game.  Generally speaking, the HO is probably a good tactic for someone who knows nothing better.  Overall, it is a poor tactic, in that if you are flying against someone who knows even a little about ACM, you will loose any advantage.  Not that HOing is an advantage for anyone, both planes will have a chance to shoot you down.  Personally, I would rather work to a position that allows the other guy no shot, and me a shot.  Most people who rely on the HO are noobs or people who don't see/can't realize the disadvantages of it...in that if they fight, they don't know how to win, and are unwilling to learn.

That said, feel free to HO me, while your attempting to HO me, I'll be using my time more effectively.

[Cmustard]

Originally posted by Motherland
Ramming was a WWII tactic too. Does that validate ramming?

"Well i got news for everyone IT TAKES 2 TO HO!"
Not always. Sometimes you cant avoid it.

Yes in ww2 people did colide INTO BOMBERS im not talking comocaziiiiii

[The Fugitive]

Originally posted by Cmustard
Yes in ww2 people did colide INTO BOMBERS im not talking comocaziiiiii

Somebodies been watching too much TV. Hoin is a lame, no skill way to get a kill. Its much harder to maneuver into a position for a kill shot WITHOUT putting yourself in the line of the enemies guns. Try it, you may enjoy the challenge!

[JB73]

Can someone please translate this thread for me? I don't know how to read AOLchat.

[BaldEagl]

Not arguing for or against it but, I need to once again point out to the "If you try to HO me you'll be dead in 30 seconds" crowd that if the HOer simply continues to extend (runs) after his attempt there's pretty much nothing you can do to stop him.

If he tries to turn after the attempt you are 100% correct.

[RATTFINK]

Originally posted by Cmustard
i guess so i dont pay that much attention in it.When im fighting most people are loooking for a nice fight they want quick picks,So if they dont get there first pick they run .So by avoding ho when u turn around there 3 k thataway and run n out more.So when im in battle i stick to HO everyone so i dont ever get the disadvantage ,but when ya ho u need to no what ur hoen :)and i consider a ho clean as long as theres no colisions involved its a clean kill in my book:cool:

Wrong Aristotle, there are ways to avoid a ho.  

In one of your statements you wrote; “In world war 2 pilots hoed,everybody hoed !!”  Prove that everyone ho’d, by all means.


So by your rant you have submitted that you ho all the time and that is how you get kills?  Hoing = no skill.  Easy kill w/ LA or any other plane w/ a high caliber gun selection on a ho = no skill.