Originally posted by lazs2
xmarine... since you are back on topic.. maybe you can finally answer a question that none of you cut and run types has yet.
What should we do? oh... I know... run away and let em fend for themselves on top of all that oil... they will sell it to us right? you said they would.. why would they bother to boycott us and sell it to say.. china?
And.. just because the people who would fund terrorists would then be free to operate and have unlimited funds to do so... that doesn't mean they would do bad things to us.. like say.. run an airliner into some buildings or smuggle dirty nukes in to vaporize a few blue cities... yours probly first.
Soo... real easy for you to critique what is being done.. but.. you have no answer.. every answer you have.. every way you would handle it.. leads to disaster.. real disaster for us right here at home.
Now.. the bad guys are fighting and dieing there... the guys doing the killing are doing it of their own free will and not whining like you are. No attacks have happened here.. we haven't been boycotted and we may... just may.... end up with a free nation in the region that is an ally besides israel.
Compare that to anything you can come up with... "just walk away and buy the oil" is not really much of a plan now is it?
lazs
We should apologize for the "oops" of having zero justification to occupy Iraq, a lunatic president, and negotiate the safe withdrawal of every last US troop while agreeing to pay hefty amounts of "sorry we broke your country" re-building $$ to mid east & euro companies.
A few million bucks cash and contracts to local tribesmen has already worked to reduce violence, why won't it work to get our troops out? Re-read the article How Bush became the new Saddam, it only took W 5 years to figure out Saddams policy of paying the locals actually works. As of today, US tax dollars go directly to groups like The 1920 revolutionary brigade, who have produced dozens of videos boasting their handy work sniping / blowing up US troops. These dudes are all about the drama of greed and power, stroking their egos with cash works, treating them with disrespect & indifference doesn't.
If they boycott the US, so be it... thank your local republican, can't say we don't deserve it after the abhorrent reduction on their entire nation into the stone age based on low budget fiction. Lets not forget, it's their oil, not ours, who they decide to sell it to is none of our business. Yes dear, that means sell the SUV.
I don't buy into the crystal ball gazers who look into the future and see doom & gloom if US forces leave, where the evidence of this? have the Iraqis stated "when you leave, we're going to tear crap up"? has anyone considered the occupation IS the cause? or is that too painful to admit.
Believe it or not the Bush administration are not the only people in the world capable of bringing peace to Iraq, actually they are probably the least qualified and proven the least competent. I'm sure the world community, Iraqs neighbors & the UN et al can figure something out to stabilize Iraq... we wore out our welcome and credibility a long time ago.
Frankly I don't care even if Iraq does go to crap, that entire country isn't worth the life of 1 US troop. Why send American boys thousands of miles to do a job Iraqi boys should be doing for themselves?
I also don't buy into the foot stomping patriotic emotional who-ha of "losing a war", "running away", "cut and run", "dying in vain" or any of that bumper sticker opinion rhetoric, this "war" was justified based on 100% pure Texas manure, cowboy-up, admit to being wrong, and pay for the mess we created... send the bill to the neoclowns & RNC with a "thank you for screwing us" love note.
Yea its a real harsh on the US mellow to eat hefty amounts of Crow, but that's what happens when our leaders pork the pooch this bad.. I'd rather have a stomach full of Crow than 4,000 more dead and 20,000+ maimed US troops.