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Offline Arlo

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« Reply #315 on: November 03, 2007, 04:35:24 PM »
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can i bring my guns?


I imagine this is your typical response to any kind of outing. ;)
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« Reply #316 on: November 03, 2007, 04:38:02 PM »
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Imagine 10 everyday people like AH bbs'ers, and 10 average Iranians in the same room, I'd bet that within 2 hours all would come to realize we have more things in common than not, and most of the fiery rhetoric of our leaders is a steaming pile of fecal matter.


That would depend on the 10 AH BBs'ers. You can't even put ten into the same virtual room without a poo fight.
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« Reply #317 on: November 03, 2007, 05:36:58 PM »
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That would depend on the 10 AH BBs'ers. You can't even put ten into the same virtual room without a poo fight.


I really laughed when I read this! :rofl :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #318 on: November 04, 2007, 09:47:20 AM »
moray... gun control laws affect me every day... seatbelt and helmet laws affect me every day.. taxes affect me every day.. gas taxes.. fees.. recycle fees..  fees on taxes on fees.   the threat of socialized medicine affects me every day.. the lack of school vouchers affects me every day... afirmative action and PC affects me every day...

and.. it is all blue state crap and it is all unconstitutional.. now explain to me how I am going to get along with your people?    I don't want what you have to offer and I resent you wanting to control everything about my daily life.

tigress... I did address your hydrogen item.. I dismissed it because there was not substance.   It is like saying..  make pollution go away.   sounds good but the cure is often worse than the disease.   You can't "make" hydrogen become viable.. in fact.. as other threads have shown.. it may be a blind alley at this point taking more energy to make than it produces... it is at best...step two after electricity becomes free.

sooo.. lets take your item number two... "2. Force the non-violent Islamic majority to fess up about the Quran and change their religion and if they don't then label them as enemies of Humanity and treat them accordingly. Make them do it, they know all about submission and domination."

holy moly!!! you are gonna FORCE a religion to say that the book their religion is based on is wrong and then tell them to change their religion?   make them submit through domination?   And you think we had a hard time getting the world to look at the sadmans weapons program?

sooo... back to the idea of yours to FORCE em to spit on their bible and convert... how exactly do we do this again?  I missed it.. I admit that I doze off reading your posts from time to time but... I don't think you quite fleshed that one out.

maybe xmarine of arlo can explain how that one could be workable and what the steps are?

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« Reply #319 on: November 04, 2007, 09:50:31 AM »
and moray... "freedom of speech"??? are you talking about the people who invented "hate speech" and PC and who wanted to take away the credentials of any scientist who disagreed that man was causing global warming?  are you talking about hate crimes and the people who want "the fairness doctrine" to shut down talk radio?

What was that about the constitution again you were babbling about?

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« Reply #320 on: November 04, 2007, 10:22:21 AM »
If the democrats really wanted fairness they'd stop buying votes with money stolen from those who are paying the bills in this country. Lemme ask a question of those of you who have rasied kids. When you were supporting your kids, providing for all of their needs, who made the decisions? Sure, you solicited input from your kids and you may have even voted on where to go out to eat. I bet you didn't let them decide when to start driving or drinking or whether they should go to school or not.


IMO, citizenship should be more than just being born in this country and taking up space. It should mean becoming a responsible and contributing member of society. If you are nothing but a burden on society, why should we let you have an equal say in the use of our shared resources? Grow up, shoulder your share of the burden, and join in making responsible, not selfish, decisions.
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« Reply #321 on: November 04, 2007, 10:25:25 AM »
Carefull there Akiron, You are starting to sound kinda like......me! Along with others who also like the Heinlein way of looking at things.































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« Reply #322 on: November 04, 2007, 11:48:31 AM »
I wouldn't go so far as to require military service for citizenship as in Heinlein's Starship Troopers, just being a nickle on the plus side should get ya the right to vote.
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« Reply #323 on: November 04, 2007, 11:54:52 AM »
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That would depend on the 10 AH BBs'ers. You can't even put ten into the same virtual room without a poo fight.


I'll qualify that; average adult AH BBS'ers with confirmed human DNA.

Average people, Iranian or American, just want to get on with their life with out being messed with, thats where US foreign policy fails. When US policies of sanctions and whatnot begin to disrupt the average persons day, they have reasons to wake up and hate on us.

Our freedoms have zero affect on their daily lives, our sanctions et al on the other hand...
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« Reply #324 on: November 04, 2007, 12:16:21 PM »
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I'll qualify that; average adult AH BBS'ers with confirmed human DNA.

Average people, Iranian or American, just want to get on with their life with out being messed with, thats where US foreign policy fails. When US policies of sanctions and whatnot begin to disrupt the average persons day, they have reasons to wake up and hate on us.

Our freedoms have zero affect on their daily lives, our sanctions et al on the other hand...


Ok, but...I don't think that there is really an 'average' American anymore...

When you consider sending 10 people from all walks' of life, you see that the paths' stray quite a bit. X, you been to the 'hood more than once. You know that if you take a cholo off of Flower & Crenshaw, and put him in the same room with a farmer from Illinois, you are not gonna have people with the same world view. Hell, even put him in with people from Rancho Palos-Verdes, you'll see what I mean. And I also know that with Islam, it depends' on which sect you identify with; Shia and Sunni don't always mix, am I right?

BTW, with the American example, I could have gone on and on( everyone reading knows this, I just don't want to sit here typing for an hour formatting as many different subgroups' of the 'Melting pot' when most who read this already know who they are.) I don't believe in the 'Average American' anymore, Things' have changed too much.
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« Reply #325 on: November 04, 2007, 12:46:30 PM »
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I'll qualify that; average adult AH BBS'ers with confirmed human DNA.

Average people, Iranian or American, just want to get on with their life with out being messed with, thats where US foreign policy fails. When US policies of sanctions and whatnot begin to disrupt the average persons day, they have reasons to wake up and hate on us.

Our freedoms have zero affect on their daily lives, our sanctions et al on the other hand...


Foriegn policy for any country never deals with the "average people". Foriegn policy deals with governments, not "average people". :rolleyes:
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« Reply #326 on: November 04, 2007, 03:02:08 PM »
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Average people, Iranian or American, just want to get on with their life with out being messed with, thats where US foreign policy fails. When US policies of sanctions and whatnot begin to disrupt the average persons day, they have reasons to wake up and hate on us.


al qaeda has just called for the overthrow of the governments of Libya, Morocco, and Algeria, i guess al qaeda doesnt like their "foreign policies" also.
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« Reply #327 on: November 04, 2007, 03:06:32 PM »
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holy moly!!! you are gonna FORCE a religion to say that the book their religion is based on is wrong and then tell them to change their religion?   make them submit through domination?   And you think we had a hard time getting the world to look at the sadmans weapons program?

sooo... back to the idea of yours to FORCE em to spit on their bible and convert... how exactly do we do this again?  I missed it.. I admit that I doze off reading your posts from time to time but... I don't think you quite fleshed that one out.

maybe xmarine (or) arlo can explain how that one could be workable and what the steps are?
 


You obviously do doze off. I already commented on how that's not a practical option. But at least Tigress is offering options and throwing more out there than "All Muslims suck, man." :D
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« Reply #328 on: November 04, 2007, 03:20:10 PM »
The "option" of getting the entire world to indict islam as a backwards and dangerous religion is about as workable as saying Peter Pan will sprinkle magic dust on you so you can think happy thoughts and fly.

Providing "options" is nice, provided the "option" has even an infinitesimal chance of being successful. That particular "option" she listed doesn't qualify.
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« Reply #329 on: November 04, 2007, 03:25:49 PM »
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The "option" of getting the entire world to indict islam as a backwards and dangerous religion is about as workable as saying Peter Pan will sprinkle magic dust on you so you can think happy thoughts and fly.

Providing "options" is nice, provided the "option" has even an infinitesimal chance of being successful. That particular "option" she listed doesn't qualify.


Then we can explore more, eh? But at least she's taking the steps. :D
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