Originally posted by FrodeMk3
There's quite a few points' that people would argue here, Tigress-all sorts of counterpoints, that is.
The one I'm gonna use is this: These things' would ultimately have to be voted on in Congress, either the house or Senate. And, who has influence over how those Senators' and Representatives' vote? The constituents? The people outside holding signs and protesting? The keen intellect, and strong moral values that got those people elected in the first place?
No. If you actually hang out at the golf courses, resteraunts, Private hunting and fishing lodges, and vacation getaways, you see the real power behind the throne. It's the guy that is usually a corporate officer, for either a large multinational, or maybe even a member of a foreign government. Even though what they want is wrong, and against the wishes of his own constituents, The congressman will vote the way they want, because He stands' to make MUCH more than his already generous salary from the lobbyists' proposal. Oh, it won't be much, what the lobbyist wants-just a vote. And they are careful not to try to bite off more than they can chew. But bite they do. Because He's getting a huge "campaign contribution", an all-expenses paid vacation, And as soon as his deed is done, an end to the protestors' in front of his office-They'll go away, when they see that it's pointless after the fact.
What I'm trying to say, is this: our own gov't. is the Hydra.
It is our government that allows free trade with china, signs' things like NAFTA, joins the WTO, Get's mired down in proxy wars, and let's it's own economy ride itself to ruin.
Like I said in my first post, the Chinese are very patient. They can wait and bide their time. I personally believe that the communist leadership in China is willing to play this game to the end. I would even be willing to bet that they fund a communist party here in the U.S. to run against the other two-especially since the two parties(Dems' and Repub's) that sit in power now are already bad, and only promise to get worse.
Lasz, you mention that it is indeed the Chinese that are about to go idealogically bankrupt, and that WE only but have to wait for them to go belly up, Much the way the Soviet Union did in '91. Might I point out, that the Soviets are picking themselves up off the map, wiping the blood off they're chin, and getting ready to go another round? And this time, they'll have China for a tag-team partner.Deny it all you want, The truth is, China is becoming the economic powerhouse-Soon, they will be the technological and military one, as well.
Hi Frode,
Thanks for your input!!!!
I read very carefully what you wrote. I think it is absolutely spot on!!!
If the two political parties don't get their self-serving heads out of their bellybutton the American Public will dismiss them both... and both parties will have deserved it. Extremism is self-defeating in my opinion.
With regards to the list I drew up...
I expect debate and contention and many points of view. That is an extremely good thing. The real solution may not look anything like the list I drew up... I did it as the request of Lazs seeing that something to start with is better than nothing to start with.
In engineering we call such an initial document.. a
Straw Man.
I have worked on many many engineering projects, both internally with my company colleagues and with customers. The person who stands up and says… it’s either my way or the highway is setting themselves up to get their six shot off.
It's not who can scream the loudest or pound the table the hardest and longest that matters.
What matters is mutual investment and ownership, and collective thinking and scrubbing to get the spec on target to get the job done right on the first go, in the shortest reasonable time to affect the needed results.
We make products for very sharp customers who expect to make money with what we produce... and we do that quite well.
I apply what I know how to do to any problem. I see this one as no different in that regards.
China and Russia of today is a serious problem. We, the USA are a serious problem. The Hydra is a serious problem. The situation seriously sucks. We owe it to the men and women of the armed forces to get it right. They do their job very well.
I firmly believe we have a critically serious leadership problem in this country, not just with Bush. I look at the candidates for President and see a pack of mediocre self-servers. Not one of them stands out to me... right or left.
Prehaps if we were not in a serious bind, it would not matter too much.
But we are in a most dangerous and critical bind and its getting worse.
Both political parties have their news outlets which filter and spin to their party's benefit. I love watching the spin on both parties news outlets. It would be laughable if it weren't so tragic.
Why on earth we put up with that crap is beyond me. I think the American public is less informed about pertinent information and the truth more so now than ever before.
I tap into news outlets from other countries on the internet. Even Russia's.
They all spin but collectively, it sheds light.
The news needs to be complete and politically independant.
TIGERESS
