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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #120 on: October 26, 2007, 04:13:51 PM »
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http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/denialmachine/video.html

so singer went from disproving cigarettes causing cancer on behalf of tobacco interests (wrong) to disproving global warming on behalf of big oil interests (majority of scientists say he's wrong here too)

this guys out to make money, not help anyone.  the problem is greed.


:rofl  Yes I noticed that as well. After my post, curiosity got the better of me so I looked him  up.

It's like the blind leading the blind in here.. In this case it's more like a blind giving walking lessons to the blind. Then leading them into a traffic and telling them if they get ran over it's the liberals fault.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #121 on: October 26, 2007, 04:19:30 PM »
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What goes around, comes around.  Circle of life and all that



Personally I think its an improvement asthetically.
Look at all that new beachfront property.
And the fishing thats sure to result.

Make a hell of a nice AH MA map too LOL
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #122 on: October 26, 2007, 04:21:50 PM »
I guess I should have added thats a map of North America approximatly 250 Million years ago... give or take a year or two

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #123 on: October 26, 2007, 04:32:04 PM »
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I guess I should have added thats a map of North America approximatly 250 Million years ago... give or take a year or two


You said what goes around comes around, circle of life etc

that to me would indicate that you were saying that is how it would look once again.

I still think its an improvement

And look! Hardly any Mexico! :aok

Now if we could only think of a way to make it happen very very quickly before then can migrate north
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #124 on: October 26, 2007, 05:36:18 PM »
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Counter question, -


Huh? No answers, just another question?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #125 on: October 26, 2007, 05:37:20 PM »
Sometimes a question is the answer. You just need some processing.
The thread is in the state of some camp stating that the S-pole is gathering ice. At the same time there is still an ongoing landrise while SL follows and more than that.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #126 on: October 26, 2007, 06:47:29 PM »
Yep. If I ever have a cartoon frog that needs rescuing.......Al`s my boy.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #127 on: October 26, 2007, 11:22:18 PM »
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #128 on: October 26, 2007, 11:50:48 PM »
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I guess I should have added thats a map of North America approximatly 250 Million years ago... give or take a year or two


I was wondering why the Rocky Mountains hadn't reached Colorado yet.  I figured it had something to do with Boston.:mad:   Not to mention Cheyenne, WY (elev. 6000+ ft) is under water and Denver (elev. 5280) is beach front.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #129 on: October 26, 2007, 11:51:24 PM »
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Nature does not need protection from man, but man does need protection from nature.

word.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #130 on: October 27, 2007, 10:07:11 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
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The ocean is rising a tenth of an inch a year?   even if every single bit of that was due to man... we are talking a couple of inches... if nothing changes.. in what half a decade... we may be able to... if everything goes right and we are willing to spend billions and nothing else changes.... stop the sea from rising an inch in a century?

question tho.. do you feel that it is man made co2 that has caused the global warming?  .

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#1.  Your math, not unexpectedly, is a little fuzzy. A mean sea level rise of  1/10 of 1 inch per year as an average, would equal out to 1 foot every 10 years.  Which would be 10 feet every century, there, Mr. Wizard. Perhaps I should add a basic math course involving fractions to your courseload.   A 5 foot increase would flood the Lower East Side of Manhattan at least twice a day, being that most of the east coast is semi diurnal.  

#2.  Yes, I do feel that CO2 emmissions have demonstrated a direct causal relationship to the problem.  I will readily agree that Co2 is definately not a major greenhouse gas.... but I am very wary of it as a gateway to worse climate issues.  CH4 and pure water vapor are both much more powerful and effective greenhouse gases, and both will rise in concentration if this shift continues.

#3.  Climate, my dear Watson, is not WEATHER.  Quit trying to tie the two together.  You keep saying, they can't predict the weather out 7 days...CLIMATE and WEATHER are two DIFFERENT things.  PLEASE get your facts straight.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #131 on: October 27, 2007, 10:11:59 AM »
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#1.  Your math, not unexpectedly, is a little fuzzy. A mean sea level rise of  1/10 of 1 inch per year as an average, would equal out to 1 foot every 10 years.  Which would be 10 feet every century, there, Mr. Wizard.
Wrong, 1/10 of an inch over ten years would be one inch!:aok

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #132 on: October 27, 2007, 10:13:23 AM »
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#1.  Your math, not unexpectedly, is a little fuzzy. A mean sea level rise of  1/10 of 1 inch per year as an average, would equal out to 1 foot every 10 years.  Which would be 10 feet every century, there, Mr. Wizard. Perhaps I should add a basic math course involving fractions to your courseload.   A 5 foot increase would flood the Lower East Side of Manhattan at least twice a day, being that most of the east coast is semi diurnal.  

#2.  Yes, I do feel that CO2 emmissions have demonstrated a direct causal relationship to the problem.  I will readily agree that Co2 is definately not a major greenhouse gas.... but I am very wary of it as a gateway to worse climate issues.  CH4 and pure water vapor are both much more powerful and effective greenhouse gases, and both will rise in concentration if this shift continues.

#3.  Climate, my dear Watson, is not WEATHER.  Quit trying to tie the two together.  You keep saying, they can't predict the weather out 7 days...CLIMATE and WEATHER are two DIFFERENT things.  PLEASE get your facts straight.

It's like mental boxing with Corky, talking with you.


Huh? 1/10th an inch per year would equal 1 inch in 10 years, not a foot. Perhaps there's something mysterious in the way sea livel rises are calculated that defy the math I learned in the second grade?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #133 on: October 27, 2007, 10:14:08 AM »
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Wrong, 1/10 of an inch over ten years would be one inch!:aok


Admittedly... coffee is good prior to posting.  I was most certainly wrong.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #134 on: October 27, 2007, 10:18:46 AM »
Egg, meet face. :p
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