General Climate Discussion

[lazs2]

ah.. so greenland and what you can see out your backdoor is "global" and the entire North American continent is "local"?

lazs

[Angus]

6 metres of sea level is global.
Nothing in the whole of the USA has the potency for that mass of water, and your brain might have a good go at calculating how much 6m. of water on 70% of the globe actually count for.
And if/while you're at it, try to fathom why just the Norther arctic areas would be due to melting..........

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Angus
In my head?
Would you answer if you belive that possible ice melting and ocean temperature rise is due to recent underseas volcanoes or not?
Or do I have to go browsing to find quotes from you?

When you get this argument settled that you are having with yourself let us know.

Once again.........the ice is melting . We get it.
Ice has been known to melt before.
Is your ice special in a way we don`t know about.

[Angus]

Hehe, this status of melting actually has never been witness by civilization.
Which makes it...special.
And it also makes it even funnyer when people state that there is no GW.

[lazs2]

angus.. is there anyone left on the planet that still buys into the algore "20 foot rise in the ocean by 2100" thing?    admit it... it's a tenth of an inch a year.. it has been for as long as people cared to check.

lazs

[Angus]

Haven't got a clue. I wouldn't. Did he claim that?
Maybe a foot or so?
However the Ice mass in Just Greenland is enough for 20 feet.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Angus
Hehe, this status of melting actually has never been witness by civilization.
Which makes it...special.
And it also makes it even funnyer when people state that there is no GW.

So..........some ice melts in Iceland and that proves Global warming.
Is that what you are saying?
BTW.......you need to get with it and switch over to Global Climate Change.
You are living in the past.

[Angus]

Back at it again, eh. Ice melting in most places where there is ice at all, resulting in an accelerating rise in SL. Were do you expect to find Ice on a large scale anyway? In Tennesee?
And that exact climate change is...warming.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Angus
Were do you expect to find Ice on a large scale anyway?  

I get all I need from the fridge unless I`m going to ice down some brew. Then I go down to the local Frisk `n Rob to pick up a couple of bags.

Ice has been known to melt before.
Ice has melted. Ice has reformed. It`s not a first.

[rpm]

Bush called for cleaner autos to cut down on polution that adds to global climate change. I guess he's on Gore's bandwagon now, huh?

[Xargos]

Who cares what Bush thinks?

[john9001]

Originally posted by rpm
Bush called for cleaner autos to cut down on polution that adds to global climate change. I guess he's on Gore's bandwagon now, huh?

i agree with bush, everyone should wash and wax their cars, it reduces the aerodynamic drag and you will get better mileage.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by john9001
i agree with bush, everyone should wash and wax their cars, it reduces the aerodynamic drag and you will get better mileage.

.......................and chicks dig it.

[lazs2]

angus.. you are missing the point..  if greenland ice is almost gone... where is the horrific sea rise so far?    Nothing has changed...  one tenth of an inch a year no matter what..  the feared 2000 ice age didn't change it and neither has the almost doubling of c02.

That is the point..the hand wringers and high priests and entertainers all say that we are headed for disaster..  some time far far far into the future.. their computer models tell them so...

computer models that can't even predict the past without constant "adjustment"... and what do they say is the cause of this looming disaster?

why.. co2.. man made co2 no less.. utopia postponed by individuals and libertarians...  the doubling of co2 will fry us all according to the computer models...

the only problem is.. the doubling is about 60% done already and nothing bad has happened... every year..  the bad stuff doesn't happen.. no one is hurt.. the planet goes on and enjoys a warm period in it's natural cycle.   every year we get closer to the doomsday years yet... nothing bad happens..will it all happen in one year in 2050 or 2100?   of course not.   The far off dates are a matter of convienience... to hide the fact that they don't have a clue.

every time they open their mouth about next year they are wrong...  you would think a guess would have a better chance.. they are never right.   Nothing bad ever happens... hell..  more bad stuff happened before they started predicting it.

If half of greenland has melted and nothing has changed... I guess the other half can melt with about as little effect.  

lazs

[Angus]

You are missing the point Lazs and so is Jackal.
Just the Icelandic glaciers would give you a bigger rise in SL than all the last century together.
Greenland would be some 20 feet.
You'd have 20 feet way before Greenland was gone though, for proportionally you'd be at 20 feet with 1/10th of the Greenland gone, with a mere 10% melting in Antarctica, - or so.
Add them up and you have some 200 feet.
You'd not fancy a trip to many an area after just a couple of feet, say alone 20, except for scuba diving down to remains of human habitat, - this is not new......
Ang Jackal's fridge has to be quite big to counter this.
Bottom line, Greenland's Glacier is still in place, but it's shrinking at a scary speed, - speed increasing.

Like riding in 60 mph then 70, then 80, and noticing you went from 60 to 70 in 200 secs, 70 to 80 in a 100, and 80 to 90 in 30, - where does that point you?