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Offline Shuffler

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1275 on: January 22, 2008, 11:22:11 AM »
Well darn.... 2 more big Global Warming conferences postponened due to cold weather. They are hoping it will warm soon so the conferences can go on.
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Offline Jackal1

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1276 on: January 22, 2008, 11:59:27 AM »
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Source?
Most of the "heroes" I read from seem to blame GW on greenhouse effect.


Source for what?
I believe you mean Global Climate Change instead of GW. Remember they changed that to...........CYA. :)
The climate will change.........big news. :rofl
They are actualy defeating their own scam by admitting that they have not factored in ..........well what they do not know and don`t have a clue about to, once again do the CYA dance.
One would think that any rational human could see by the many manipulations and changes in their own predictions, because they have found to be innacurate and false, would have a light bulb go off over their head. A real "This is your sign" moment.
You simply cannot predict the future actions of anything when you do not have and have not factored in all information. In this case they cannot due to the unknown.
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Offline Holden McGroin

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1277 on: January 22, 2008, 07:03:09 PM »
Disko Bay in Greenland has frozen over this winter for the first time in a decade.

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'The ice is up to 50cm thick,' said Henrik Matthiesen, an employee at Denmark's Meteorological Institute who has also sailed the Greenlandic coastline for the Royal Arctic Line. 'We've had loads of northerly winds since Christmas which has made the area miserably cold.'


just something interesting.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1278 on: January 23, 2008, 03:24:09 PM »
About time it froze over, it used to be the norm.
And Jackal, - source for seawater warming mainly because of recent underseas volcanoes spawning.

If there is seawater warming....
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1279 on: January 24, 2008, 04:44:23 AM »
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About time it froze over, it used to be the norm.
And Jackal, - source for seawater warming mainly because of recent underseas volcanoes spawning.

If there is seawater warming....


Angus go back and read please. This is getting boring.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1280 on: January 24, 2008, 12:17:59 PM »
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Originally posted by Angus
About time it froze over, it used to be the norm.


...after it wasn't the norm.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1281 on: January 24, 2008, 03:44:18 PM »
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Angus go back and read please. This is getting boring.


I reply this with "go back and think"

It must be hard for you and Lazs to desperately debate that there is indeed a warming trend (local<>global, in air sea or melting ice) while grabbing anything to explain what is denied in the first place, with straws such as increased solar activity, and now again the not melting ice with not occuring increase in SL absolutely due to swiftly increased underwater volcanic activity.

Not boring at all. Quite interesting really.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1282 on: January 25, 2008, 05:38:55 AM »
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Originally posted by Angus
I reply this with "go back and think"

It must be hard for you and Lazs to desperately debate that there is indeed a warming trend (local<>global, in air sea or melting ice) while grabbing anything to explain what is denied in the first place, with straws such as increased solar activity, and now again the not melting ice with not occuring increase in SL absolutely due to swiftly increased underwater volcanic activity.

Not boring at all. Quite interesting really.


Yeah..well if "I" had said any of that, then you might have a point, but as it is you missed the boat, the dock and are rowing down a dirt road. :)
The point is, was and will be the CYA factor from your guys.
Can`t blame them though. They got theirself into a sinking ship. They have to try to patch the life rafts somehow.
Predictions based on whims are like dog farts. Stink real bad now, but are quickly blown away at the first sign of wind. :rofl

BTW Angus the "get it" part is still evading you.

Let me recap for you.......................... ........

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Interesting wording indeed.


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I didn`t write the article. I didn`t do the research. I didn`t release the results.


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Possibly in another thousand to two thousand years they might actualy have a clue about what they are doing and discussing without having to try to sell BS for facts.


That help you any?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1283 on: January 25, 2008, 08:05:49 AM »
Oh well.. the good thing is we won't hear much about man made global warming until summer comes again.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1284 on: January 26, 2008, 06:40:34 AM »
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Yeah..well if "I" had said any of that, then you might have a point, but as it is you missed the boat, the dock and are rowing down a dirt road. :)
The point is, was and will be the CYA factor from your guys.
Can`t blame them though. They got theirself into a sinking ship. They have to try to patch the life rafts somehow.
Predictions based on whims are like dog farts. Stink real bad now, but are quickly blown away at the first sign of wind. :rofl

BTW Angus the "get it" part is still evading you.

Let me recap for you.......................... ........

Well, I guess I can also make a sillly joke about "get it" in Swedish and you would not "get it", but I can see no promotion from your behalf on the debated issue (ocean perhaps warming up because of recently appearing underseas volcanoes- or not), so I rather see you with a straw than a raft, and thereby I promote you to monty Python's sillest contest :D

 

 

 

That help you any?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1285 on: January 26, 2008, 06:43:31 AM »
The answer.
(the site seems to have some problems with it)

Well, I guess I can also make a sillly joke about "get it" in Swedish and you would not "get it", but I can see no promotion from your behalf on the debated issue (ocean perhaps warming up because of recently appearing underseas volcanoes- or not), so I rather see you with a straw than a raft, and thereby I promote you to monty Python's sillest contest :D
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1286 on: January 26, 2008, 07:08:54 AM »
There was no joke Angus.
The issue you seem to be debating is in your head.
It`s black and white.
They are doing the CYA dance.
Simple.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1287 on: January 26, 2008, 08:31:33 AM »
In my head?
Would you answer if you belive that possible ice melting and ocean temperature rise is due to recent underseas volcanoes or not?
Or do I have to go browsing to find quotes from you?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1288 on: January 26, 2008, 08:33:24 AM »
Oh, and CYA too :p
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1289 on: January 26, 2008, 08:35:27 AM »
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By the same logic, Antarctica holds 10 times the energy bound up as ice as Greenland.

So Greenland = local?



Both are big enough to count as global. You simply cannot count Greenland wiping out it's stock of ice as a "local" object.
6 m of SL that would make. And 60 on top of that is of course...global too!
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