Originally posted by DREDIOCK
The climate is warming. I dont think anyone is disagreeing on that
Except Lazs of course, who earlier said
no measurable rise in global temperature in 8 years now... The global temp will trend downward in the next few years...
Yeah right. That "cooling" is why all the arctic ice is melting right now.
Looks like Moray was right about those blindfolds. Seems like Laz takes the Hitler stance, which was that people would believe the BIG lie. It was the little white lies they didn't believe. So, take a big lie and repeat it 500 times...
Originally posted by WilldCrd
Its all hype! every damn bit of it on both sides! in the 90's it was the upcoming dreaded Y2K (yeah that was a joke)
Glad you brought that up because I believe there are parallels between that and global warming. In the 90s, people were scaremongering about 1/1/2000 - cars not starting, TV sets blowing up, electric kettles not working - you name it! People in IT were accused of "lining their pockets" for doing Y2K related work. And, on January 1st, 2000 - nothing happened. And the naysayers proclaimed "See! it was all a scam!".
Ah, not quite. Some of it was - kettles/cars/TV were never at risk. But the reason there was no apocalypse on 1/1/2000 was BECAUSE of the work undertaken to modify IT systems - the application programs, the database management systems, operating systems, and the data itself and the way it was stored. Had this work not been undertaken, there would indeed have been major crashes - just as there were within the safety of testbed scenarios.
Same thing again now. The GW Naysayers cling to the "it's a scam" argument. But man made greenhouse gas output WILL be reduced. New aircraft will be built that are 15% more fuel efficient than those operating before 2005 - already happening. New "greener" fuels will be developed to power cars - already happening. Later generations will have got over the Chernobyl/TMI paranoia and will make a commitment to nuclear (and other) sources of energy - already happening. Major commitments will be made to tech advancements such as low energy lighting - already happening.....
I believe that like Y2K, measures being taken now will see off the apocalypse of GW. And then the naysayers (or rather their descendants) will be able to gloat and say "See! it was all a scam!".