Author Topic: Gun Free Campus Protest (Read 2662 times)

Yeager · « **Reply #30 on:** October 25, 2007, 01:36:51 PM »

it does not take much intelligence to realize that people with carry permits are lawful people in the first place. Thats why they are obeying the law

Elfie · « **Reply #31 on:** October 25, 2007, 02:31:34 PM »

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The NRA is doing this wrong.. we should be using the tactics of the left and... anyone who is denied the right to carry... anywhere including schools... and then becomes the helpless victim of a sociopath... The NRA should fund a lawsuit for him, or his surviving relatives, against all who made sure the poor bastard was unarmed and helpless.

I like that one Lazs

Elfie · « **Reply #32 on:** October 25, 2007, 02:38:10 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
Yea because people with CCW's never shoot anyone or commit crimes.

The folks who actually apply and get CCW's are law abiding citizens for the most part. Out of the hundreds of thousands of permits issued nation-wide I think I heard of ONE incident where a weapon was used illegally. That's a pretty darn good track record.

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see the pro gun guys (aka NRA) are totally against that. They say that's too much restrictions and it's anti 2nd amendment. Which in short means the gun companies would lose money on sales.

The NRA doesn't fight laws and prospective laws based on gun company sales. They fight them based on whether or not they are constitutional. If it infringes on your right to keep and bear arms you can bet the NRA will be involved.

lazs2 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 25, 2007, 02:41:59 PM »

crock-it...

I couldn't disagree with you more. so long as the person is of age and mentally competent... there should be no restrictions on him carrying a firearm... concealed.

I believe that private businesses should have the right to make policy for how you carry... I believe states and cities can tell you if you need to carry openly or concealed.. but that is it.

as for felons? when they get let out of prison... hand em back there gun and say "go with god" If you didn't think they could be trusted with a gun.... what the hell did you let em out for?

lazs

john9001 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 25, 2007, 03:18:56 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
as for felons? when they get let out of prison... hand em back there gun and say "go with god" If you didn't think they could be trusted with a gun.... what the hell did you let em out for?

lazs

i have often thought about that, a ex-con sometimes can't get hired or rent a apt, how are they supposed to "go straight" if they can't work or find a place to live?

no, im' not a bleeding heart liberal, i'm pragmatist.

in florida a ex-felon can petition the gov to have civil rights restored.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 25, 2007, 03:41:05 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
Well I agree with it, but the fact is, the gun lobby which is basically the NRA and Gun companies. Has "shot" down those very kind of standards and background checks and so on.

They claim it violates the 2nd amendment.

That's because it does violate the 2nd amendment. Any thing that can stop any citizen from owning and bearing a gun for any reason violates the 2nd amendment.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 25, 2007, 04:12:13 PM »

Crockosht should produce some numbers, he may learn something. He wont though, he will just go on being the Mirror image of the fox fanatic he hates.

It's sadly amusing.

crockett · « **Reply #37 on:** October 25, 2007, 04:55:47 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2

When you can learn how to reply with out trying to insult other posters, well then I'll maybe give a rat's aruse about your opinion.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 25, 2007, 05:09:22 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
When you can learn how to reply with out trying to insult other posters, well then I'll maybe give a rat's aruse about your opinion.

LOL your not worth a reasonable reply, there are for more reasonable and intelligent people on your side of the fence who don't come off like total left wing nutballs. You really are exactly what you hate in the Neocons just the flipside.

The only effort you are worth is in making fun of you.

Bodhi · « **Reply #39 on:** October 25, 2007, 05:19:07 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
sorry I'm tired of replying to crying about liberals..

Well maybe if you liberals would keep your socialistic, PC ways too yourselves and stayed away from my Constitutional Rights you wouldn't have an issue now would you?

crockett · « **Reply #40 on:** October 25, 2007, 05:26:34 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
crock-it...

I couldn't disagree with you more. so long as the person is of age and mentally competent... there should be no restrictions on him carrying a firearm... concealed.

I believe that private businesses should have the right to make policy for how you carry... I believe states and cities can tell you if you need to carry openly or concealed.. but that is it.

as for felons? when they get let out of prison... hand em back there gun and say "go with god" If you didn't think they could be trusted with a gun.... what the hell did you let em out for?

lazs

Gotta love it, Larz you really live in a fairytale world.

First it's there should be no "restrictions or qualifiers" for gun ownership. Then you turn around put your own personal "restrictions and qualifiers" that you think are important. Yours seem to only be their "age and if they are mentally competent".

So it's ok to break the 2nd amendment as long as it fits your personal opinion? Is that it? It's ok for "you" to set "restrictions and qualifiers" but I can't because that would break the 2nd amendment?

You can't have it both ways Larz either you agree there are certain people that should never own guns or you think anyone should. So either you agree that the govt does have the right to tailor fit the 2nd amendment and create laws to restrict gun ownership or they can't at all.

So which is it, you can't have it both ways?

Also, I never knew "trust" came into play at any point, when handing down a sentence to someone whom broke the law. A criminal is given a sentence, he "can" get out on parole if he is a good inmate "if" his sentance allows it.

However even if he tells you he will commit the same crime again and again. He still "has" to be released at the end of his full sentence. Unless he commits another crime while in jail. They can not hold him any longer than the sentence he was given in the court of law. The only thing they don't have to do is let him out early.

crockett · « **Reply #41 on:** October 25, 2007, 05:39:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Bodhi
Well maybe if you liberals would keep your socialistic, PC ways too yourselves and stayed away from my Constitutional Rights you wouldn't have an issue now would you?

Ahh so it's ok for you Conservatives to blab about what ever you want but no one else can have an opinion if it's different than yours?

Funny how the same guys that are always crying about their gun rights.. Are the same guys that tend to support things like the Patriot Act, wire taps, FCC regulations and so on.

Go figure I guess some of you never read the rest of the constitution or it's amendments. You better start marching on Washington because they let women and minorities vote now. Those damn evil liberals broke the Constitution again.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 25, 2007, 07:02:59 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
Ahh so it's ok for you Conservatives to blab about what ever you want but no one else can have an opinion if it's different than yours?

Funny how the same guys that are always crying about their gun rights.. Are the same guys that tend to support things like the Patriot Act, wire taps, FCC regulations and so on.

Go figure I guess some of you never read the rest of the constitution or it's amendments. You better start marching on Washington because they let women and minorities vote now. Those damn evil liberals broke the Constitution again.

It is not that you are a liberal, hell I have many liberal friends( all pro gun liberals from Cali oddly enough). I have been accused of it on this board as well. Liberal is not a dirty word.

See the problem with you is, you have given up reason and logic for your extreme views. You are not worth debating. Others here are far better at getting their point of view out there without coming off as an insufferable ass. You should look into that.

Here is another hint, go learn something about a topic before you try and debate it here. GO back and read the years of gun threads. Charon would pick you apart like smoked chicken at a BBQ contest. Simply because you have no idea what your talking about on this subject.

AKIron · « **Reply #43 on:** October 25, 2007, 09:02:21 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Liberal is not a dirty word.

I almost took you seriously.

Bodhi · « **Reply #44 on:** October 25, 2007, 09:14:22 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
Ahh so it's ok for you Conservatives to blab about what ever you want but no one else can have an opinion if it's different than yours?

Funny how the same guys that are always crying about their gun rights.. Are the same guys that tend to support things like the Patriot Act, wire taps, FCC regulations and so on.

Go figure I guess some of you never read the rest of the constitution or it's amendments. You better start marching on Washington because they let women and minorities vote now. Those damn evil liberals broke the Constitution again.

I think you should read the Comstitution and learn what it says. As opposed to actually offering changes that attack the Constitution, offer up ways to support it. You have painted with a broad brush. I have never supported the Patriot Act. I also feel that the government is broken. My only concern is that the Constitution is protected.

I have learned one thing tonight though.... liberals is not the best word to describe a person like you. Like GtoRa2 said, you do not know much about the subjects you "try" to debate, but insist you are right. Instead you spout whatever the current PC bs manifesto that papers like the NY Times and CNN spew out.

A word of advice. Read the Constitution and understand that it was enacted to help protect our citizens, and not tie them up with a multitude of PC laws that suffocate our right to live free.