Gun Free Campus Protest

[AKIron]

Labels, like political positions, change. Imagine there's no labels, nah, unpossible.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by AKIron
Labels, like political positions, change. Imagine there's no labels, nah, unpossible.

very true.

[lazs2]

crock-it...

you are comparing not giving guns to mental defectives to the 40,000 gun laws on the books that you support?

that asside... if you knew anything about the subject you would see that these are not my personal restrictions... I didn't make em up.

They are in the federalist papers and literature of the times and the state laws.

To boil it down for you (I know you like soundbites)... the militia shall consist of every able bodied man between the ages of 14 and 60.

This is a defenition that is repeated over and over in works of the times.

now... able bodied means sane in any mans book.    "14" would mean that you don't give children the right to bear arms.

Soo.. these restrictions I support and no others.   Unless of course you are going to give the old nuke in the backyard silliness... for which the constitution and writings of the times amply explain... "bear arms" means hand held weapons.. grenades and cannon and such were to be stored at central places in the towns.

it is simple and reasonable stuff... the only reason you don't understand it is that you have not bothered to try.  you lurk in the far left corners of the internet and... you probly have no personal idea or thoughts on the second at all... you are simply against it because... well... it is the lefty hip thing to be against.

it is tempting to simply dismiss your ilk as airheaded socialists but... I am an optimist.  Maybe as you get older you will learn to think for yourself and look at both sides.   Liberalism defends on shutting up debate tho... PC.. hate crimes...  shut down the media... take away honors for scientists that disagree with MMGW

and.. in this case...simply make up a bunch of stuff about firearms while saying that the second is the only amendment that takes rights away from people.

lazs

[Engine]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
LOL your not worth a reasonable reply, there are for more reasonable and intelligent people on your side of the fence ...

Hopefully they're intelligent enough to know the difference between "you're" and "your".

[cpxxx]

I don't suppose it occured to anyone to compromise. Allow people who have CCW permits to bring weapons to school if they inform the school authorities.

This has a double advantage in that there is anyone thinking of going on a killing spree has to consider the fact that there will be people there to fire back at him and giving peace of mind to other students that there are people who would be in a position to defend them. It probably won't stop the psycho but it might make him more careful leading to less deaths.

Why does it always have to be a confrontation? People are nervous about guns in colleges for very obvious reasons. Given that isn't it insensitive of gun enthusiasts to maintain that their right to bear arms overrides any reasonable or unreasonable fears of the majority. With all rights goes responsibility.

The concept of reasonable compromise to everyones benefit really needs to be explored.

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by Engine
Hopefully they're intelligent enough to know the difference between "you're" and "your".

Yeah, I do, You're a grammar Nazi,  your feed back is not welcome.

crockit just isnt worth a proof read either.

[Engine]

Feedback is just one word, and your punctuation and capitalization is a mess. Kudos on the proper usage of "you're" this time.

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by Engine
Feedback is just one word, and your punctuation and capitalization is a mess. Kudos on the proper usage of "you're" this time.

You missed your calling as a Naggy old teacher.

Spend lots of free time on this? It really doesn't seem like a very fun hobby.

What EVar floats YOUR boat.

[john9001]

is it ok to say "ya'll"?


and by the way, fear of weapons is Hoplophobia.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by cpxxx
Why does it always have to be a confrontation? People are nervous about guns in colleges for very obvious reasons. Given that isn't it insensitive of gun enthusiasts to maintain that their right to bear arms overrides any reasonable or unreasonable fears of the majority. With all rights goes responsibility.

The concept of reasonable compromise to everyones benefit really needs to be explored.

The Constitution of the US, specifically the 2nd Amendment, specifically does not allow for compromise on the rights of a free people to bare arms.  

Cpxxx,
You have to read and understand our early history and our Constitution so you can realize why the founding Fathers of this nation outlined it as such.  Many say that the 2nd Amendment was an after thought.  Yes, it was, as the founding Fathers realized that there were imbeciles who would talk of removing the ability of the citizenry to over throw an unjust and corrupt government.  Freedom of Speech was also in the same boat.  They added both very quickly to prevent imbeciles from harming the good of the nation.

[crockett]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
It is not that you are a liberal, hell I have many liberal friends( all pro gun liberals from Cali oddly enough). I have been accused of it on this board as well. Liberal is not a dirty word.


See the problem with you is, you have given up reason and logic for your extreme views.  You are not worth debating. Others here are far better at getting their point of view out there without coming off as an insufferable ass. You should look into that.

Here is another hint, go learn something about a topic before you try and debate it here. GO back and read the years of gun threads.  Charon would pick you apart like smoked chicken at a BBQ contest. Simply because you have no idea what your talking about on this subject.

Then why do you keep quoting me and replying to my posts? If it's not worth your time why do it?

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by crockett
Then why do you keep quoting me and replying to my posts? If it's not worth your time why do it?

It's worth my time to make fun of you.  You are always great for a laugh.

[crockett]

Originally posted by lazs2
crock-it...

you are comparing not giving guns to mental defectives to the 40,000 gun laws on the books that you support?

First off what makes you think I support the 40k gun  laws that are on the books?  Just because I support strict rules on who can own a gun, doesn't mean I'm some anti gun guy that thinks no one should have them.

You act as just because I oppose your little idea of how the world should run, that it somehow means I hate the 2nd amendment and hate guns.

that asside... if you knew anything about the subject you would see that these are not my personal restrictions... I didn't make em up

They are in the federalist papers and literature of the times and the state laws..

To boil it down for you (I know you like soundbites)... the militia shall consist of every able bodied man between the ages of 14 and 60.

This is a defenition that is repeated over and over in works of the times.

now... able bodied means sane in any mans book.    "14" would mean that you don't give children the right to bear arms.

Soo.. these restrictions I support and no others.   Unless of course you are going to give the old nuke in the backyard silliness... for which the constitution and writings of the times amply explain... "bear arms" means hand held weapons.. grenades and cannon and such were to be stored at central places in the towns.

No you didn't make it up, but you seem to be fine with allowing people whom have committed violent crimes to own guns as soon as they get out of prison. I find that rather silly.

I simply pointed out that you are are being hypocritical. You first say there should be no restrictions, but then you turn around and say well these restrictions are ok, but this one isn't because YOU don't agree with it.

Sorry, but with gun ownership comes responability. If you are a viloent criminal then you have shown you are not responable and should lose the right to bare arms.

it is simple and reasonable stuff... the only reason you don't understand it is that you have not bothered to try.  you lurk in the far left corners of the internet and... you probly have no personal idea or thoughts on the second at all... you are simply against it because... well... it is the lefty hip thing to be against.

it is tempting to simply dismiss your ilk as airheaded socialists but... I am an optimist.  Maybe as you get older you will learn to think for yourself and look at both sides.   Liberalism defends on shutting up debate tho... PC.. hate crimes...  shut down the media... take away honors for scientists that disagree with MMGW

and.. in this case...simply make up a bunch of stuff about firearms while saying that the second is the only amendment that takes rights away from people.

lazs

It's simple reasonable stuff.. Yea and part of that simple reasonable stuff IMO is to not allow violent criminals the right to bare arms. I also feel it's reasonable to have certian places such as schools to be gun free.

As for your air head and name calling comments, I guess it just shows you have a lot of growing up to do.

[crockett]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
It's worth my time to make fun of you.  You are always great for a laugh.

Well I'm glad you have taken great notice of me, because I don't even have a clue who you are nor do I really care. Hope you enjoy.

[crockett]

Originally posted by Yeager
it does not take much intelligence to realize that people with carry permits are lawful people in the first place.  Thats why they are obeying the law

Really? There are many loopholes in many states that allow people to obtain CCW permits even with past criminal histories. In Florida alone they found something like 1,400 people whom were approved for CCW's but had committed federal crimes in the past.

There was or still is a loop hole that allowed them to get their past history ignored when applying for the CCW permit.

Again, I'm not against gun or peoples right to carry them, however I do feel there should be stricter regulations for CCW's and there should be places like schools that are gun free.