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« Reply #735 on: January 05, 2008, 07:02:35 PM »
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is that a yes or no?


Don't let matters or responses not as simple as your mind requires confuse you, john. Try pretending like you understand by going "huh?" less and just posting a "yarp" after the posts you think you agree with and "narp" after the ones you think you don't. The rest of us can handle your simplicity but some things just can't be dummied down in return. :D

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« Reply #736 on: January 05, 2008, 07:04:38 PM »
i'm sorry but arlo have forced me to use the word"obfuscate", arlo you are accused of obfuscating.

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« Reply #737 on: January 05, 2008, 07:20:57 PM »
Is that a "yarp" or a "narp?" Heh. ;)

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« Reply #738 on: January 05, 2008, 07:26:12 PM »
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yada yada yada yada yada

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« Reply #739 on: January 05, 2008, 07:30:02 PM »
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whimper whimper (I just don't understand!) whimper whimper


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« Reply #740 on: January 05, 2008, 09:24:36 PM »
The idea that there is no judicial activism is foolish. You may not like the buzzword but rulings that are outside the bounds of the Constitution happen. Raich v Ashcroft and Kelo v City of New London are two solid examples. The idea that justices do not make bad, unconstitutional decisions is refuted by the very system itself. Or do you actually think only the lower courts are capable of making unconstutional decisions? That anything the Supremes decide is correct? Again, history itself refutes that idea.

As for the value of opinions, I think I'll just point out that the opinions of the American Revolutionaries were probably seen as hubris by the British. Those opinions counted for nothing until they fought and the British lost. I certainly have opinions on the Constitution and if necessary, I'll fight to make them count.

Right now, the fight is in the SC. I have faith, as I said, that common sense, honesty and basic intelligence will see that it ends there.
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« Reply #741 on: January 05, 2008, 10:09:32 PM »
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The idea that there is no judicial activism is foolish. You may not like the buzzword but rulings that are outside the bounds of the Constitution happen. (And the rest is about as impressive as you exhibiting you've finally learned how to tie your own shoes. - Arlo)


Wrong answer. Two spaces back. Skip a turn. Ruling on constitutional legality is the SC's job as per the Constitution[/b]. This is not left to interpretation. This is not an opinion. That particular function of government leaves no room for ambiguity (unlike the second amendment, alas). The SC doesn't go out (actively away from the bench) and look for a way to subvert the Constitution to achive it's militant Illuminatus agenda or some such piffle. Whining about the ruling as a means of "legal protest" by making up buzzwords to evoke emotion and stir up the devoted is a poorly formed groupthink sheeplet buzzword whine. Accomplishes nothing but a warm feeling in a wet diaper.

Now, if you wanna be productive .... and taken as seriously as you seem to think you deserve for just sobbing angrily how unfair and "unconstitutional" it is that the SCOTUS works within it's parameters (what you wanna believe with all your heart is "activism" - clickable link - learn to define the whine) then, like I said, form a practical argument and stop imagining it's always been there, "clear as day" but the rulings you're at odds with have been a long-term conspiracy (and not just an opinion you disagree with). :D :aok

Short version: Lighten up, Francis. ;)
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« Reply #742 on: January 05, 2008, 11:03:06 PM »
Shorter version: SCOTUS makes mistakes. There is a clear history of the SC doing so.

Pretending they don't is laughable.

Pretending their mistakes can't be recognized by normally intelligent people is even more laughable.
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« Reply #743 on: January 05, 2008, 11:24:33 PM »
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Originally posted by Toad
Shorter version: SCOTUS makes mistakes. There is a "clear history" of the SC doing so.

Pretending they don't is laughable.

Pretending their mistakes can't be recognized by normally intelligent people is even more laughable.


Well glad to see you laughing all the way through your foamy
apoplectic fit over "judicial activism."

Get over your opinion (of yourself) and present your opinion honestly and I may just manage to take your opinions (even of yourself) more seriously. :D

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« Reply #744 on: January 06, 2008, 03:11:30 AM »
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Well glad to see you laughing all the way through your foamy
apoplectic fit over "judicial activism."

Get over your opinion (of yourself) and present your opinion honestly and I may just manage to take your opinions (even of yourself) more seriously. :D


Hmmm..........

IMHO Toad gave you a straight and to the point answer and you again dodge, bobbed, weaved, and ignored his VALID point!

IMHO you did so to NO AVAIL!

Play word games and avoid giving legitimate answers all you want.  IMHO you're not getting much of anywhere, and mostly just burying yourself under mountains of misdirection B. S.

Go ahead and give your standard comeback about how all of us are so very below your standards of education and therefore just can't understand yada yada yada.

You must have an I.Q. somewhere around 1000 right?  All us little minded prepube types just can't deal with your brilliance right?

Go ahead be honest tell us what you really think...............






I'll tell you what I think of your tactics, your methods, your approach to communicating...........


BULLLLLLLL <<<  you do know the word that follows this right?



The SC makes mistakes!!!!!!!!!!!

IIRC They've even later refuted some of their own rulings!

IIRC They've actually made BAD rulings and years later reversed them.

They're PEOPLE just like you and me and everyone else.

AND .... Because they are PEOPLE they are NOT without error, or bad judgment.

NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR CLAIM THAT IS FACT!

People make mistakes!  

The SC is made of people and people are capable of making MISTAKES!




Are you one of those people that thinks because some judge, or group of judges SAY, or claim, something is legal and right that it truly is legal and right no matter what?

Dang!  If so perhaps I have a Bridge you might like to buy  :rofl
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« Reply #745 on: January 06, 2008, 10:19:43 AM »
Arlo, I think you're just one of those guys that likes to hear himself talk. You are indeed just a basic drive-by poster in Nash's mold. Your supercilious attitude doesn't impress anyone but yourself.
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« Reply #746 on: January 06, 2008, 10:24:33 AM »
I also think that their decisions have to get better than the dredd scot ones...

The country is able to watch the sausage being made in a way that they never could before.

I too have faith that common sense and honesty and the constitution will prevail.

lazs

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« Reply #747 on: January 06, 2008, 12:08:07 PM »
haha down to calling everything a mistake after being shot down all the way along. wonder whats next. The devil made me do it?
Incredible!

How bout the guy that got fired for doing such a crappy job Toad?
Its a mistake. It's a mistake I tell ya! Da Plane.

Laz? the argument still wrong?
Toad? still dont know what the case is about?
Will Arlo and Bing continue the smakdown?

Tune in tommorrow for more bloviated pontification, from the my way or the highway crowd knownaughts.


:rofl
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« Reply #748 on: January 06, 2008, 12:45:36 PM »
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Originally posted by Bingolong
haha down to calling everything a mistake after being shot down all the way along. wonder whats next. The devil made me do it?
Incredible!

How bout the guy that got fired for doing such a crappy job Toad?
Its a mistake. It's a mistake I tell ya! Da Plane.

Laz? the argument still wrong?
Toad? still dont know what the case is about?
Will Arlo and Bing continue the smakdown?

Tune in tommorrow for more bloviated pontification, from the my way or the highway crowd knownaughts.


:rofl


Smakdown?  You mean smack down?

No matter.

Sounds like you think your winning........

IMHO that doesn't seem to be the case.

IMHO This hasn't been much of a discussion.

If you honestly believe the SC is going to go a certain way, or not going to go a certain way, whats wrong with explaining WHY you think so, perhaps with LINKS to support your stance, without the name calling?

I confess I've read some stuff that suggest the SC may NOT decide the way supporter of the 2nd Amendment think they will.

I've also read some stuff that suggest the SC will come out in support of the 2nd Amendment.

My understanding of the 2nd Amendment comes from the military and the schooling I received when I was young.  I admit that was some time ago :lol








Or is this one of those run it up the flag pole and see if anyone salutes it type post?  

I didn't see many salute it!  

Perhaps one other?

Arlo......

And he SEEMS to be using the if you don't agree with him your trailer park trash approach.

TROLL?  

Lookin for support?
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« Reply #749 on: January 06, 2008, 01:04:34 PM »
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Smakdown?  You mean smack down?

No matter.

Sounds like you think your winning........

IMHO that doesn't seem to be the case.

IMHO This hasn't been much of a discussion.

If you honestly believe the SC is going to go a certain way, or not going to go a certain way, whats wrong with explaining WHY you think so, perhaps with LINKS to support your stance, without the name calling?

I confess I've read some stuff that suggest the SC may NOT decide the way supporter of the 2nd Amendment think they will.

I've also read some stuff that suggest the SC will come out in support of the 2nd Amendment.

My understanding of the 2nd Amendment comes from the military and the schooling I received when I was young.  I admit that was some time ago :lol








Or is this one of those run it up the flag pole and see if anyone salutes it type post?  

I didn't see many salute it!  

Perhaps one other?

Arlo......

And he SEEMS to be using the if you don't agree with him your trailer park trash approach.

TROLL?  

Lookin for support?


IMHO :aok I really dont have any idea what the SC will say. I have stated what I would like to hear from them.

No after almost 750 posts Im just tired of proving you all wrong :) I guess? and when I do the NO response run off attitude. Its a mistake.

If I were proved WRONG I man up and say so. So far that hasnt been the case.

Toad INSISTED that the guy who wrote the argument was FIRED for screwing the thing up.

When PROVED wrong he clams up or changes the subject.....

all three of you said it wasnt going to have anything to do with the militia.
Right out of the GATE 1st argument. where is Laz and Toad  awwwww..... they didnt answer the question. Its wrong! they fired that guy! What BS!

AGAIN proven wrong, off they trot laying road apples along the way.

and no I ment Smakdown! Thanx fer da lesin tacher boi!

I just picked a few words to SHOUT so you might understand me better....!
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