Originally posted by lazs2
and.. facts are facts. the cops did not stop any of these shootings. they never do.. the cops get their and get "set up" with "tactics" way too late to do anyone any good...
The best you can say is that when the bad guy...after killing a couple of dozen... sees that he is surrounded by armor covered cops everywhere... you guys force him to shoot himself before he kills any more.
That may be too harsh..it was not meant to be. my only point is that a well trained cop who is the best gunfighter that modern training and tactics can provide is useless if he is 6 minutes away...
a civilian with a revolver who has the guts to do what is right and is on the scene.. is what I would rather see.
The cops can sort it all out later.
I have to say.. as I have pointed out.. cops are a neon target... uniform.. being in bad situations with bad guys... they absolutely need different training and equipment than a civilian CCW.
The fact that they are obvious changes everything.
lazs
The police obviously act as they are trained and directed to act, and to live to fight another day regardless of the outcome.
I also believe there is a seperation between police and non-police in violent crime situations. If it's happening to their own family or friends or fellow LEOs, LEOs will risk more to attempt to stop it.
A cop-shooter is in greater danger from the police, is what I am saying.
That is
not intended whatsoever to offend the LEO's here or elsewhere... its just human nature to defend you own with less regard for your own safety.
I believe a ccw civilian amongst a crowd of victims during a mass-murder spree feels the same as a cop seeing someone murdering defenseless cops because they are cops.
It brought me to tears watching video of the scenes outside Virginia Tech while the massacre was in progress... I could hear shots being fired inside the building with police outside, obviously on orders, not acting to stop the carnage at that point, even though I understood it.
A ccw civilian in the midst of ongoing carnage around them have no reason to wait for back up.
They ARE the on scene back-up for victims around them who have no means of defending themselves, and if they are anything like Jeanne Assem, will wade in to shoot or be shot to save lives to the best of their common sense, training and ability.
There is power in that, in my mind. The police must do as they are trained and thus are predictable to a mass-murdering gunman in the planning stages and during the scenario.
The wild-card is the ccw civilian who is in the right place at the right time.
Future perpetrators of this kind of crime are watching and observing and I just hope Jeanne and her ccw license and gun is sending a clear message to them:
"You have more to deal with than you think you do, you coward, and likely as not, out of the crowd of sheep comes an armed defender, male or female, with a bead on you and you won't see it coming."
This is
EXACTLY the serious dose of justifiable paranoia I spoke of earlier...
TIGERESS
