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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2007, 01:25:10 PM »
Ah there you see Viking, you ignorance has led you astray again. :)

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The Taliban government was never recognized as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.


Except by Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.
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« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2007, 02:39:37 PM »
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Ah there you see Bodhi, you ignorance has led you astray again. :)



I asked you to name one country that recognized Chechnya as an independent state; the answer is that none did ... and Islamic terrorist organizations most definitely do not count. ;)


They were recognised, as was the leadership of Afganistan.  Believe what you choose to.  I also know that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and I believe the UAE recognised them.

As for ignorance, well, hell, I guess I ain't all that smart compared to yas Youropeans....  then again, I really do not rely on Wiki for my facts either...  ;)
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« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2007, 02:40:12 PM »
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Ah there you see Viking, you ignorance has led you astray again. :)

 

Except by Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.


Ahh thanks Holden.  Did not scroll down to see that.
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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2007, 02:59:31 PM »
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Ah there you see Bodhi, you ignorance has led you astray again. :)

The Taliban government was never recognized as the legitimate government of Afghanistan. In 1996, the ruling members of the Afghan Government were displaced by members of the Islamic Taliban movement. The legitimate government of Afghanistan was that of Burhanuddin Rabbani, later the leader of the Northern Alliance and allied with NATO during the recent invasion ... and they  definitely didn't recognize the Chechnyan Taliban-allied rebels.

I asked you to name one country that recognized Chechnya as an independent state; the answer is that none did ... and Islamic terrorist organizations most definitely do not count. ;)


                            And there have been very good reasons why the Europeans have been silent over the genocide in Chechnya. The need Russian energy.

                           Russia a Democracy?:lol Thats a good one.

                          And the Islamic brothers of Chechnya? Most of all Iran? They need Russian arms and nuclear energy assistance. So they sold them out. I get a kick out of all the Euro-whining over our Iraq policy when the dictator Putin has decimated Chechnya without even a whimper from West Europe.http://www.hrw.org/doc?t=chechnya
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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2007, 03:44:22 PM »
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They were recognised, as was the leadership of Afganistan.  Believe what you choose to.  I also know that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and I believe the UAE recognised them.


Lol, yeah until 9/11 2001 they did. But being supported by a couple of terrorist-loving countries while fighting a civil war does not make you a nation. Unless of course you are willing to admit that the Taliban forces were legitimate soldiers of a nation state and thus subject to POW status when captured? No I didn't think you would. You know ... this is a strange turn of events that you people are actually trying to legitimize the Taliban as the legal government of Afghanistan. I think your government would strongly disagree. ;)
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« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2007, 03:45:48 PM »
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And there have been very good reasons why the Americans have been silent over the genocide in Iraq. They need Middle-Eastern energy.  


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« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2007, 03:51:10 PM »
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Iraqi genocide by Americans? There might be one or two on this board you didn't just lose the last scrap of credibility you had with but I kinda doubt it.
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« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2007, 04:22:42 PM »
Seems you didn't get my point: There's no more genocide in Chechnya than there is genocide in Iraq.
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« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2007, 04:38:06 PM »
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Lol, yeah until 9/11 2001 they did. But being supported by a couple of terrorist-loving countries while fighting a civil war does not make you a nation. Unless of course you are willing to admit that the Taliban forces were legitimate soldiers of a nation state and thus subject to POW status when captured? No I didn't think you would. You know ... this is a strange turn of events that you people are actually trying to legitimize the Taliban as the legal government of Afghanistan. I think your government would strongly disagree. ;)


Unless Bodhi is from one of the three nations that recognised the Taliban as legitimate, of course his government would disagree.

You are very good at squirming Viking... you should run for political office.
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« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2007, 04:44:45 PM »
Naw ... I'm far too anti-PC to be a politician, but thank you for the sentiment.

So Holden ... do you think the Taliban was the legitimate government of Afghanistan? Do you think that their recognition of Chechnya means anything at all?
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« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2007, 04:50:03 PM »
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Naw ... I'm far too anti-PC to be a politician, but thank you for the sentiment.

So Holden ... do you think the Taliban was the legitimate government of Afghanistan? Do you think that their recognition of Chechnya means anything at all?


Lets see... I am not a Saudi, a Pakistani, or a Emeratiy... Emmirite... somebody from the UAE, so no, they were not legitimate.  

However that does not change the fact that they were recognized by three governments at least, and that when you said, " The Taliban government was never recognized as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.", you were wrong.
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« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2007, 05:05:04 PM »
Well that depends on my/your point of view, but I'll concede that point. However you did not answer my second question: Do you think that their (Taliban) recognition of Chechnya means anything at all?
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« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2007, 06:19:15 PM »
I'm willing to recognize the pre 9/11 Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan. When they harbored Osama they effectively declared war against the US. They have yet to sue for peace and until they do should be fought and killed wherever they are found.
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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2007, 07:40:45 PM »
They harbored Osama since the war with the Soviets. The 9/11 attack was planned and the terrorists trained in Afghanistan with the support of the Taliban.

If you recognize their legitimacy as a nation, then you must also recognize that they are legal combatants and that you are duty bound to treat them as such per international treaties.
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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2007, 08:19:51 PM »
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And there have been very good reasons why the Americans have been silent over the genocide in Iraq. They need Middle-Eastern energy.


Gscholz... man... wtf are you on about.  Are you this delusional?  

If your hatred blinds you enough to lie this much, then damn... I really feel sorry for you.
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