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Offline angelsandair

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« on: January 04, 2008, 09:50:13 PM »
why does the f4u-4 cost so many perkies, i understand the f4u-1c with its 20mm cannons, but is the u4 really all that much better, what is it? more powerfull engine? more maneuverable? im sure it carries the same amount of guns as the 1d, just wanted to kno~~~~1pLuS44-ROLLINGTHUNDER
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2008, 09:51:59 PM »
It is a very effective airframe.   One of the best in the game.   It's ONLY shortcoming, is La7 like mpg.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2008, 10:11:08 PM »
I'm surprised Sax isn't here yet.

He'll tell you all about it... it's really only the tiniest smidge less maneuverable than the F4U-1D, but its extra thrust makes up for it. It really is the best overall prop plane in the game as its flaps will let it turn with any Spit pilot dumb enough to turn fight the 'wrong way'. It holds E better than the P-51 which is a lot. The main thing about it is the beast of the engine making 2450 hp max. and the more efficient 4-bladed prop with only a bit of extra weight allowing for essentially, an upgrade in almost everything.

It's pretty much the F4U-1D but uber. If you're a Spit freak like me, you'll understand; the F4U-4 is essentially what the Spitfire IX is to the Spitfire V... extra performance for a tiny cost in maneuverability. In fact, the Spit V loses more maneuverability from becoming the Mk.IX than the F4U-1D loses from becoming the -4.

At the same time the 4-Hog is slightly faster than its Spitfire counterpart, the Mk.XIV, and is much rarer and entered combat more than a year later in the war in numbers of about 200 units.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2008, 12:30:09 AM »
Pappy pretty much got it, however IMO she flies more like the 1A (which I consider the best pure dogfighter of the 1-series Hogs) than the 1D, without the extra gas in the wings.

The -4 essentially takes the two main shortcomings of the earlier marks: rate of climb and acceleration, and does away with them. While she still won't catch a Spixteen or La-7 in an extended straight climb, it's GREATLY improved nonetheless, and as with all the Corsairs the zoom is INSANE. With six tons of airplane behind it, she WILL run down those Ponies and La-7s who think they can lose her in the zoom. Additionally, she's in the upper echelons in acceleration at all altitudes, and is one of the fastest props throughout the altitude range, especially above 10,000ft. Even some of the top dragsters like the La-7 and Spixteen barely manage a second over her in acceleration.

As Pappy said, the engine adds additional 450hp over the 1-series, and the four-bladed prop is a major leap over the three-bladed one on the earlier marks. Of the five Corsairs we have, the -4 is by far the best in the vertical.

She also has all the other strengths of the Corsairs: Fast, superb high-speed, handling (ESPECIALLY aileron and rudder authority) excellent guns, der Uberflappen, reasonably tough airframe (though I still think our R2800 is made of glass).

The F4U-4 is either at the top, or at the very least within the top 5-10 or so, of virtually every performance category. There's few, if any, ships in the game that have so many tricks over so many opponents. Assuming equal pilots, the F4U-4 WILL beat any other opponent more often than not.

Really, her only glaring flaw is endurance. As Masher pointed out she does have a rather short range on internal fuel, but she can take a drop tank and full internal and even with the extra weight and drag is still more than a match for most opponents.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2008, 02:02:39 AM »
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I'm surprised Sax isn't here yet.

He'll tell you all about it... it's really only the tiniest smidge less maneuverable than the F4U-1D, but its extra thrust makes up for it. It really is the best overall prop plane in the game as its flaps will let it turn with any Spit pilot dumb enough to turn fight the 'wrong way'. It holds E better than the P-51 which is a lot. The main thing about it is the beast of the engine making 2450 hp max. and the more efficient 4-bladed prop with only a bit of extra weight allowing for essentially, an upgrade in almost everything.

It's pretty much the F4U-1D but uber. If you're a Spit freak like me, you'll understand; the F4U-4 is essentially what the Spitfire IX is to the Spitfire V... extra performance for a tiny cost in maneuverability. In fact, the Spit V loses more maneuverability from becoming the Mk.IX than the F4U-1D loses from becoming the -4.

At the same time the 4-Hog is slightly faster than its Spitfire counterpart, the Mk.XIV, and is much rarer and entered combat more than a year later in the war in numbers of about 200 units.


Hit the hammer on the head there mate :]
But I don't see why the f4u is perked but only the spit XIV is cause I think somewhere I read something like HT saying he perks planes on "How many people are flying them" or something like that, and I see plenty of spit XVI's out :]

The f4u4 is an amazing plane if you know how to use flaps, and is still a great plane if you don't. It can outdive most, if not all planes, it's fast, manuverable and maintains E very well, although, I still perfer the f4u-1c just because with flaps, it easily makes up for it's shortage of manuverability, and it suits me well (even my spray and pray at times :aok )
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2008, 02:15:34 AM »
Either way, if the F4U-4 were to ever be unperked the resulting whines would certainly drown out the "Perk the ElGhey!!!" squeaking.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2008, 02:55:03 AM »
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Either way, if the F4U-4 were to ever be unperked the resulting whines would certainly drown out the "Perk the ElGhey!!!" squeaking.


Isn't that why they made the /.squelch xxx command? :aok
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2008, 07:10:58 AM »
Personally speaking of course... I still think the La-7 is better.

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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2008, 09:51:33 AM »
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Either way, if the F4U-4 were to ever be unperked the resulting whines would certainly drown out the "Perk the ElGhey!!!" squeaking.


I doubt it--most of the MA players wouldn't even notice.  Unperk the -4, and the 1C with a perk will still see more usage.  To most, the extra firepower is more important than the better performance, as our original poster so stated.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2008, 10:08:12 AM »
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Isn't that why they made the /.squelch xxx command? :aok


Really needs to be bound to a key.  I can't type .squelch fast enough.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2008, 12:13:47 PM »
k thnx guys
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2008, 12:19:25 PM »
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Hit the hammer on the head there mate :]
But I don't see why the f4u is perked but only the spit XIV is cause I think somewhere I read something like HT saying he perks planes on "How many people are flying them" or something like that, and I see plenty of spit XVI's out :]



The Spixteens are usually piloted by those who can't really fight and though there are many MANY of them, I guess it's just not enough for HTC to put a perk on them.
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2008, 12:49:50 PM »
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I doubt it--most of the MA players wouldn't even notice.  Unperk the -4, and the 1C with a perk will still see more usage.  To most, the extra firepower is more important than the better performance, as our original poster so stated.


I bet u get more kills in a -4 in 1 flight then u can in a -1c.  Heck I bet I can get more kills in a -1 in 1 flight then u can in a -1c in 1 flight.  It all in the aim and the 50 cal hogs offer more versatility then the c hog.  I rather the 50 cal hogs then the cannon anyday.  Only reason I fly a c hog is when I out #'d 3:1 and need to kill quickly instead of tickling my food and also for attacking a field.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2008, 01:15:11 PM »
Buncha noobs, real men don't fly blue planes.:aok

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2008, 02:02:08 PM »
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The Spixteens are usually piloted by those who can't really fight and though there are many MANY of them, I guess it's just not enough for HTC to put a perk on them.


No need to perk the XVI because it doesn't unbalance the game play.


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