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Offline GooseAW

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Fw 190 D-9
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2008, 12:33:13 PM »
D9s taste like chicken....:p

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« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2008, 03:30:36 PM »
Dora is a beast of a plane.  100% fuel and the 500 Kg bomb.  Deliver ordinance.  Flying back to a home base that's being harried is fun.  

Come toddling in at 8K to 15K or so scooting along at 375 TAS.  Fun to see those with vulches/kills start to skidattle.

If not the best Jabo in the plane set, one of them.

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« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2008, 09:13:36 PM »
We weren't talking about 190s in general, just the D. A5s can furball ok, but it wouldn't be my first choice to mix it up with. I think the rest turn like trucks and if you actually get caught in a turnfight,  your going to have a tough time of it.

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« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2008, 02:26:57 PM »
Searched for your name quintisv, to see what plane you fly, but there's
no record of you. So what name to you fly under?
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« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2008, 02:45:10 PM »
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We weren't talking about 190s in general, just the D. A5s can furball ok, but it wouldn't be my first choice to mix it up with. I think the rest turn like trucks and if you actually get caught in a turnfight,  your going to have a tough time of it.


They turn like crap but you can still maneuver quite well in them. I fly A8's all the time and end up on the deck more often than I'd like.

Sure the turn radius sucks, but they have an awesome roll rate. If I'm on the deck I tend to get the other con into a scissor fight. You can almost always make the average  MA pilot over shoot, assuming the other guy isn't a real good stick.

Then you can pounce. granted it's not my favorite position to be in, but the 190's are pretty tough aircrafts and can take a few hits, giving you time to get an advantage.
"strafing"

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« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2008, 02:49:50 PM »
well, 190 is the worst plane in the game :rolleyes:



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« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2008, 03:52:30 AM »
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BTW Im not saying they need to drop flaps and play grab prettythang with HOcanes but making one pass at 400mph then zooming away 4km and waiting for u to get engaged then booming back in for the pick and then nosing down to run like a school girl at the first sign of E parity makes u a COWARD imho


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« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2008, 11:22:17 AM »
If the MA were about anything resembling honorable or fair single combat, then one would have to be crazy to take up a D9, as opposed to a Spit, Hurri, or some other turner with sweet handling.

However, it ain't, it just ain't. Take up good old Spit, do a nice lead turn on the first bandit you see, settle on his six nicely, cut your throttle down to pull in real nice and close and give him the canns, and what can you expect? Generally, 2-3 of his closest friends coming in to pick or saddle up on you. (If the only other planes in sight are wearing green, you can usually expect them to all come in and "help" you with that con on your 12...but that's another issue)

If you think a Dora diving in at high speed to backstab you during a dogfight  is annoying, consider the Hurri or Zeke that comes in and saddles up. (Not that there is anything wrong with clearing a countryman's six, I'm not the one complaining about "unfair" tactics.) Then consider that even the ones you kill will be reupping to come in higher and better-planed for vengeance...it's like fighting zombies in a graveyard. At this point, a plane with escapability starts to look real good.


Don't like picking? Many planes are much better pickers than the Dora, they have as good or better guns and can turn alot better.  You want a real furball picking machine? Grab you a Nik.  No, what the D9 is good for is assuring that if you don't do anything too stupid, you can usually leave the gang behind and land when its time to be leaving. The price it pays for this escapability is vastly inferior turning and that much more difficulty actually getting kills. A fair trade, IMO.  

Not nesscarily a choice that stems from a timid personality either, perhaps an anti-social one instead. A fast plane makes it possible to  fly and fight by yourself, without the guarantee of being  ganged and shot down.

Whenever I hear a complaint about someone running in a Pony or a D9 or the like, I think to myself, does the person making the complaint REALLY wish the other guy was a vastly more competent stick, who would actually shoot down their (insert name of superior turning fighter here) instead of running from it? Or are they instead wishing that their less-skilled opponent would obligingly begin an unwinnable turn radius fight with them, thus giving them an easy kill? Clearly, it is the latter, and just as clearly, there is very little difference between this mindset and the mindset of shooting planes on the runway.

 If alot of the D9 drivers are extending too soon in 1v1 situations where it might be possible for them to get a kill, that's their loss and no one else's IMO.

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« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2008, 11:33:34 AM »
I used to tell people (once I found out who they were) -

"I understand learning how to fight is probably too much to ask, but could you please at least learn how to shoot?"

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« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2008, 11:50:14 AM »
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well, 190 is the worst plane in the game :rolleyes:



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« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2008, 05:43:13 PM »
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lolz me smells a shade


Of course it is

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« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2008, 11:20:55 AM »
Well Said Fester,

Fester, when did ya start lowering the bar on Muppet recruitment? LOL im gone for a year and come back to see some guys in the muppets that wouldnt make it into the ol MAWS :lol

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« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2008, 12:04:27 PM »
i fly 190's almost exclusively. i dont BNZ other pilots, but i will evade to build up speed. the d9 is a sherman tank with wings. At 300+ its an awesome machine. Below 300, its a nightmare. if you look at my other posts about trying not to auger in flying low and slow in a 190, you'll get the idea. i make long wide turns and i wont go head to head with a 51 because its a free kill for him. i will try to out run him, build up some speed and come back around on it. this are the strengths of the 190. im no expert at this game but ive had some great coaching and im starting to hold my own. if you are that cranky about the 190, try flying one in a dogfight, you find out very quickly why people use the run tactic. again try flying one for awhile then come back and lets us know how you made out on a 1V1 against a 51 or a spit. we'll  be waiting with anticipation

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« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2008, 12:31:15 PM »
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if you are that cranky about the 190, try flying one in a dogfight, you find out very quickly why people use the run tactic. again try flying one for awhile then come back and lets us know how you made out on a 1V1 against a 51 or a spit. we'll  be waiting with anticipation


You are wrong, it can fight.  Fighting is not just turning.  It is not BnZing either.  Try e-fighting it.  Find me in the game and I will show you.

If you think you are right and that the 190 cannot fight, then why are you in it?
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« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2008, 12:41:29 PM »
Complaining about Doras flying high and fast is like complaining about Jeeps driving low and slow.

Each machine is doing the job for which it was designed.

Just because its owner chooses not to fight in a way that best suits your plane's strengths doesn't make him a dweeb, or you any better.

Do all the Zeke aces say, "Man, those Spit dweebs! All they do is stay high and fast, instead of mixing it up with me! They're total dweebs." I think not.

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