ENY!!!

[Dadsguns]

What this thread amounts to is"whaaaaa i want to fly MY La7"

actually its, whaaa I cant beat anyone in an equal plane i wont have the advantage..........

[smokey23]

Im with ya on this Tralfz everytime we start to win the war our eny starts to climb to a point where we cant fly anything usefull, its not our fault the enemy gives up and leaves the arena. If i work for 3 or 4 days to win a war im sure not gonna jump ship to go help a country i spent the last 72 hours or more trying to defeat. Somethin needs to be done. 

[Yossarian]

I understand why ENY exists, even if I don't really like it.  Also, I'm really not too sure/convinced that it actually has much of an effect in it's purpose.

However, I like Bonz's idea about having a perk price for planes with a low ENY when there's a high limit.  Perhaps for every ONE ENY between the value of whatever plane you want to fly, and the ENY's limit, the perk price would be twice that.  Just a thought, to prevent ENY from being "useless".

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Yossarian

[Lusche]

Im with ya on this Tralfz everytime we start to win the war our eny starts to climb to a point where we cant fly anything usefull, its not our fault the enemy gives up and leaves the arena. If i work for 3 or 4 days to win a war im sure not gonna jump ship to go help a country i spent the last 72 hours or more trying to defeat. Somethin needs to be done. 

If you are that loyal, you sure will proudly fly everything availabe to you to help your noble cause. Just like a true warrior you clench your teeth and overcome any obstacles instead of complaining on the board...

BTW, there is NO point where ENY in LW arenas where you "can't fly anything useful". That's just utter nonsense.

[Lusche]

I would like to make a point of some irregularities that I have seen with ENY
Example:
Sat, in the Orange arena bish were outnumbered by at least 40+ and the knits and rooks had an eny of around 2-5 , at the same time in the Blue arena the bish outnumbered knits and rooks by 40+ we had a steady eny of 15-20.  

As I explained to you before: Don't be that fixated on that numbers. Look at the percentages next time.
40 players out of 400 total are much lesser share than 20 players out of 120

ENY is basically computed by YOUR player % compared to smallest country player %. And it's the same formula for every country.

[Anaxogoras]

I don't switch countries for the sake of ENY. I might as well play some FPS game if I cared that little of which side I was fighting for.

Wait.  It makes a difference which chess piece we fly for???

If it were up to me, I'd just perk the Spixteen all of the time and be done with it.   Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to dodge the insults of the easy-mode lovers...

[bswin03]

I wouldn't mind the principle behind ENY butttt.........when i try to log in and fly with my squad in a particular arena, its already full or close to it.  So i wait it outand finally get in, only to find it ENY limited.  I can find planes to fly no prob., that doesn't bother me so much, however i dont like finally getting in to the arena and finding it lopsided.  The point being there are times whenever you can't get more players into an arena to level the playing field because the other MA doesn't have enough players in it for some reason.  As for changing countries, that isn't for everyone (me included) but if you don't mind, have at it.  Solution, maybe start by loosening the number restrictions in arenas, and make maps easier to reset so when a country is losing and doesn't want to play in that arena anymore, it doesn't shaft the ones from other countries who do.  Fresher maps and looser restrictions on the #'s between the 2 MA's might help ENY alot and it could once again be used as intended.  Just my thoughts  

[DadRabit]

if we simply must have eny, make it zone based, sector based or base based.  case in point.  large map.  4-5 of bish vs same amount of enemy at a certain base. 5 vs 5.  i get shot down in a f4u 1 (i believe) try to reup but cant take a f4u.  instead, i gotta up a slow fm2 against an enemy with better plane choices.  1.6 alt base too boot.  get rid of eny.  it has no purpose anymore.

[jon]

Wait.  It makes a difference which chess piece we fly for???

If it were up to me, I'd just perk the Spixteen all of the time and be done with it.   Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to dodge the insults of the easy-mode lovers...

[SFCHONDO]

I rearly fly the low eny planes so it doesn't really effect me much, but I still think the current eny setup is flawed. I wish they would perk the planes as eny went up. Not some low 5 perks but rather say start at 15 and go up from there. Most people rarely use there perks and this way it would make getting perk points worth more. If there not going to change it at least make it so the current perked planes are not effected. To me if someone wants to use their perks, then they should, no matter the eny situation.

[DadRabit]

so i guess no one complained and thats how eny came to be   

[Guppy35]

But if I've already been flying that Mustang for days, what's fair about being told to take that P-40 cuz we're puttin' a whoopin' on the other side!   

Alky, there are any number of examples where squadrons or groups had to give up their favorite ride for one they didn't want, due to attrition etc.

133 Eagle had some of the first Spit IXs.  They lost a bunch on the infamous Morlaix mission.  They went back to Spit Vs.  354th FG who were first in Mustangs, had to give them up for Jugs.  39th FS who were first in 38s in the Pacific had to give them up for Jugs.  I could go on and on.

They flew what they were given and told to fly.

As for limited choices as someone else mentioned.

American

A-20G
B-17G
B-24J
B-25C
B-25H
B-26B
C-47A
F4F-4
F4U-1
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5
FM2
P-38G
P-38J
P-38L
P-40B
P-40E
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47N
P-51B
P-51D Mustang
SBD-5
TBM-3
British

Boston Mk III
Hurricane Mk I
Hurricane Mk IIC
Hurricane Mk IID
Lancaster III
Mosquito Mk VI
Seafire Mk II
Spitfire Mk I
Spitfire Mk V
Spitfire Mk VIII
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV
Spitfire Mk XVI
Tempest Mk V
Typhoon Mk I
German

Ar 234B
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-14
Bf 109K-4
Bf 110C-4b
Bf 110G-2
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Ju 87D-3
Ju 88A-4
Me 163
Me 262
Ta 152H
Italian

C.202
C.205
Japanese

A6M2
A6M5b
B5N2
D3A1
Ki-61-I-KAIc
Ki-67
Ki-84-la
N1K2-J
Russian

Il-2 Type 3
La-5FN
La-7
Yak-9T
Yak-9U


Yep, not any other planes to choose from 

[NoBaddy]

ENY does not have the desired effect of “EQAULIZING” the game.  Bish repeatedly demonstrates that by winning maps with ENY as high at 25 before. 

Had you ever bothered to check, you would have found that "the desired effect" was to encourage (not force) some balance. No one is forced to change countries when ENY becomes a problem for their current country. However, if they insist on flying in the largest country, they won't be doing so with the best planes. Of course, the alternative would be to force side balancing. Do you want to be told which country to fly in each time you log in?

I didn't think so. 

[DadRabit]

when eny kicks in u can cut that list in half

[Elfie]

It's really not ENY that is the problem, it is and always has been people's attitudes that are the problem.