TAKING A ENY POLL

[kamori]

LMAO..So heres what we have with ENY....Were loosing so lets penialize the wining side.... What a bunch of Tree Huggin I cant take care of myself whining liberals....


ENY IS LAME....but thats the way this game has been going, Its becoming another Playstation, Nintendo....


 

[Alky]

LMAO..So heres what we have with ENY....Were loosing so lets penialize the wining side.... What a bunch of Tree Huggin I cant take care of myself whining liberals....

  kamori 

[Murdr]

I see that as a function of not having an easy way for loaded sides to see potential rewards by switching sides. From HTC's perspective it's better to reward players to switch sides then to disillusion players to log off entirely. (Admittedly that would happen anyways but the idea is to mitigate frustrations.)

And it may still suck, but it sucks less IMO then -  half cost tempests vs 20 spit 8's.

There is already a perk cost modifier in the game based on country roster.  That was tried first, before ENY.  It wasn't effective.

[hubsonfire]

I see that as a function of not having an easy way for loaded sides to see potential rewards by switching sides. From HTC's perspective it's better to reward players to switch sides then to disillusion players to log off entirely. (Admittedly that would happen anyways but the idea is to mitigate frustrations.)

And it may still suck, but it sucks less IMO then -  half cost tempests vs 20 spit 8's.

As it is now, there's a perk multiplier for all sides. When ENY is in effect, the perk multiplier is already increasing the costs, and decreasing the perks earned, of the side with numbers, while doing the reverse for the outnumbered sides. Many players refuse to change sides now, even though what you describe already happens to a limited extent. And as has already been mentioned, anything with a perk cost only effects the newer inexperienced players, who have less of an impact on gameplay than longer term players to begin with. The noobs are gunfodder no matter what they're in- limiting them to lesser rides, or giving them free perk planes to fly with the outnumbered side isn't going to change anything.

[cbizkit]

There is already a perk cost modifier in the game based on country roster.  That was tried first, before ENY.  It wasn't effective.

My question to that would be why do players generally look at the roster? 90% of the time I'm doing it I'm either looking for squaddies, specific players or viewing stats. The effectiveness of a display like that is strongly tied to where you place it, much like advertisements. A better place (and this is just plucking ideas out of the air cause I'd rather pretend I'm still on lunch) would probably be on the hanger screen showing how much a plane costs to you now, versus the cheapest available. I can't say whether or not the difference would be large enough to make it useful though.

limiting them to lesser rides, or giving them free perk planes to fly with the outnumbered side isn't going to change anything.

It does change something, it changes the cost of the planes. Whether or not that is going to have a more significant impact on providing incentives for players to switch sides than exists now is up to interpretation.

The details of the idea really aren't relevant, I think the whole reason I posted it in the first place is from a design standpoint it is far more valuable to a decision maker to be provided options. Having a group that says 'NO' and having a group that says 'YES' but provides absolutely no additional value in the way of ideas for potential improvements is fairly pointless. And that comment is directed more at those who want ENY to disappear.

If you want to be rid of ENY there's going to have to be something better to take its place because it doesn't seem like HTC is inclined to return to pre-ENY days due to the lack of a balancing mechanism (regardless of how effective/ineffective it is).

[Murdr]

2. We have resisted changing any thing for a long time, And out first attempt and providing a country moving force was done only when it became and issue (perk multiplier this was a few years back). This was done to effect other issues as minimly as posible.
HiTech

AND Btw on your other sugestion of perks being lowered for underdog, they are already, Underdog gets decrease, Big country gets increased.

HiTech

[Iron_Cross]

ENY is not going to go away.  Just because you refuse to switch sides out of some misguided loyalty to an artificial chess-piece made up country / team mates, to balance the sides, it just means you can't fly your uber wonder plane any more.

So ether live with it, and fly another higher ENY plane, or give Hitech something better to balance the sides with.  _{I prefer you stop whining about ENY and just suck it up. $.02}

[cbizkit]

HTC quotes...

AND Btw on your other sugestion of perks being lowered for underdog, they are already, Underdog gets decrease, Big country gets increased.

HiTech

At a minimum I think the delta could be bigger such that the underdog gets a larger decrease and the big country gets a larger increase. But we could also cast a wider net if it actually affected more then a small handful of planes. I guess personally I'd rather see more discussion on what could actually be done rather then arguments for the status quo or reverting back to pre-ENY days.

[Puck]

ENY rocks.

F4U-1 + most outrageously outnumbered country on the board + three or four zip codes in Nikis = really juicy perk points.

[smoke6]

yes, get rid of it. people are paying to fly what they want when they want. the uber piolts who want to keep eny are good enough to kick the butts of lessor pilots such as myself regardless what we fly. i constantly hear the good pilots in this game tell us lessor pilots that it's the pilot that matters...there is no best plane.

[MajIssue]

Milquetoast answer:

Modify it so that an ENY of more than 24 never happens, or the ENY is calculated on the total number of players on the side, so that "hangers on" (i.e. perk chasers) in the tower and not in vehicles/aircraft do not skew the ENY for a side!

[NoBaddy]

Milquetoast answer:

Modify it so that an ENY of more than 24 never happens, or the ENY is calculated on the total number of players on the side, so that "hangers on" (i.e. perk chasers) in the tower and not in vehicles/aircraft do not skew the ENY for a side!

No problem, provided the modify the game so that one side can never out number another by more than 1 person. BTW, as has been stated else where..."perk chasing" is an urban myth. You have to be incountry for 12 hours before you receive perks from a reset.

[moot]

ENY rocks.

F4U-1 + most outrageously outnumbered country on the board + three or four zip codes in Nikis = really juicy perk points.

You "Tree Huggin I cant take care of myself whining liberal" 

 

[2fly]

No.

At least untill some other viable option comes out to balance the sides.

[pluck]

yes, get rid of it. people are paying to fly what they want when they want. the uber piolts who want to keep eny are good enough to kick the butts of lessor pilots such as myself regardless what we fly. i constantly hear the good pilots in this game tell us lessor pilots that it's the pilot that matters...there is no best plane.

nope, you are paying to fly in the game and within it's rules.  You are not paying to fly any plane you like, though if the conditions are right you may.