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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #90 on: March 17, 2008, 04:39:27 PM »
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #91 on: March 17, 2008, 04:41:16 PM »
yes please get rid of eny  :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #92 on: March 17, 2008, 05:24:02 PM »
I would like to show how many Aces high players are against the ENY, please respond by posting a reply to this post yes or no (YES-get rid of ENY), (NO-keep ENY)

I think it needs some tuning and maybe a good explanation of how it works 'cause I'm totally confused as to how it gets figured.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #93 on: March 17, 2008, 11:25:16 PM »
nope, you are paying to fly in the game and within it's rules.  You are not paying to fly any plane you like, though if the conditions are right you may. 

Yes we are flying the game within the rules, but when the ENY calculations appear to be off, it is our duty to bring attention to it. So is ENY perfect no, does work to some degree yes, can it be improved upon no doubt about it, do "some" players use the negitive result of ENY for the other side to gain a advantage on them yes. This was a poll to get a read of opinions of the games general population just as it was before ENY, Hitech recieved it's feedback from the players on at that time, why should now be any different. I like to see if anyone could list the different balancing options that where also purposed a that time so maybe we could offer alternative solutions or new ones that won't repeat you may have already tried or purposed. 
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #94 on: March 17, 2008, 11:35:19 PM »
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #95 on: March 17, 2008, 11:43:13 PM »
I think ENY and its effects as implemented stemed from the idea that people would log on, see the high ENY prohibiting them from flying what they want, and then switch sides, and thus balence the arena.

obviousley that is not happening, many many people and most squads are Country loyal, and for good reason, familiar faces, both friend and foe.. and the logistics of getting an entire squad to change sides in an instant.

instead of people logging in saying "woah!" and switching sides.. they log in say "#&$^ #$@*#   *#$(&@#" and log off, cancel account,  etc etc..    there have been enough threads about ENY to back the notion that a good portion of people do not like it.. perhaps total eradication of ENY is not the answer, but apparently.. neither is what we currently have.

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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #96 on: March 17, 2008, 11:47:16 PM »
I personally like ENY restrictions. I would absolutely hate to see it removed totally. I really don't think it should apply to bombers though, personally. It might need tweaked or something, maybe with perk point costs to stop the complaining about it, but there should be some sort of limiting factor when numbers are way off.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #97 on: March 17, 2008, 11:50:27 PM »
I think ENY and its effects as implemented stemed from the idea that people would log on, see the high ENY prohibiting them from flying what they want, and then switch sides, and thus balence the arena.

No.

No one ever thought that ENY limiter could completely balance numbers. While being a strong incentive to switch sides, it's main function is to give the biggest team a small handicap when numbers are getting out of control. It's basically just there to prevent having overhwelming numbers AND top rides at the same time.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #98 on: March 18, 2008, 12:10:40 AM »
No.

No one ever thought that ENY limiter could completely balance numbers. While being a strong incentive to switch sides, it's main function is to give the biggest team a small handicap when numbers are getting out of control. It's basically just there to prevent having overhwelming numbers AND top rides at the same time.

well, its not doing that either..

yesterday the bish had the most people on..  but have FEWER in flight than the rooks, and only 6 more than the nits..

ENY was 17, for over an hour.  thats not a small handycap.. thats a BIG handycap for a country that didnt even have the most people in the air..  and only a handful more than the country with the fewest.


what Your saying would make PERFECT SENSE of it actually occurred as stated.. but it doesn't really seem to..  ENY seems to fluctuate randomly with little rhyme or reason as to why..




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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #99 on: March 18, 2008, 12:13:48 AM »
well, its not doing that either..

yesterday the bish had the most people on..  but have FEWER in flight than the rooks, and only 6 more than the nits..

ENY was 17, for over an hour.  thats not a small handycap.. thats a BIG handycap for a country that didnt even have the most people in the air..  and only a handful more than the country with the fewest.

Screenshot please.

People claim a lot of silly things with regards to ENY, just like in all those collision threads. Most perceptions are plain wrong. If you explain how things work, they don't listen. Constantly confusing facts and opinions...


ENY doesn't work randomly. It's the same formula for every country. And it's not based on people inflight only, because that would be easy to circumvent for that huge squads.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #100 on: March 18, 2008, 12:56:12 AM »
Keep ENY.  Every Vet should know what it used to be like... upping against 10 SPIT 16's low, supported by 15 mid level Niki's covered by 20 hi La-7's.  The game was beyond ludacris then.

I am WHOLLY in favor of keeping it.  I'm also in favor of those who don't, to go to the TA and learn the very good high eny planes, and to shut up already about eny.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #101 on: March 18, 2008, 02:55:26 AM »
definately eny is good. I think a case could be made for adjusting some planes eny value though.. still dont understand why p47n is a 5  :)



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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #102 on: March 18, 2008, 04:12:58 AM »
No, I am not against it, but it could be implemented more objectively.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #103 on: March 18, 2008, 05:22:17 AM »
No, I am not against it, but it could be implemented more objectively.

ENY is objective. Some ppl just see only they want to see.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #104 on: March 18, 2008, 07:07:03 AM »
YES