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Ju 87G
« on: April 13, 2008, 08:30:32 AM »
Ju 87G

With the G variant the aging airframe of the Ju 87 found new life as an anti-tank aircraft. This was the final operational version of the Stuka and was deployed on the Eastern Front starting in the early months of 1943. The Ju 87G was armed with two 37 mm cannons mounted in under-wing gondolas, each loaded with a 6-round magazine of armour piercing tungsten ammunition. With these weapons the Kanonenvogel ("cannon-bird"), as it was nicknamed, proved spectacularly successful at the hands of the Luftwaffe ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel. The G-1 was converted from older D-series airframes retaining the smaller wing but without the dive brakes. The G-2 was similar to the G-1 except using the extended wing of the D-5 with 208 G-2 new built and at least 22 more converted from D-3 airframes.

While still slow, its stable attitude, large wings and low stall speed were valuable in the acquisition of slow moving targets, such as assault boats and ground vehicles. The G-1 even influenced the design of the A-10 Thunderbolt II, with Hans Rudel's book, Stuka Pilot, being required reading for all members of the A-X project.


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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2008, 08:38:17 AM »
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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2008, 08:47:06 AM »
Gee Vans your so helpful....... :rofl

Can anyone give an answer as to why this model is not available.... :O  Someone that actually knows!?
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2008, 09:45:06 AM »
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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2008, 09:57:45 AM »


Can anyone give an answer as to why this model is not available....


Only a hand full of 37mm and i don't think it was produced in great numbers. The 37mm was mainly used so destroying ships it would not do a thing to a tank.
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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2008, 10:08:30 AM »
The 37mm was mainly used so destroying ships it would not do a thing to a tank.

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Try reading here.
http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tankbusters.htm

The remaining German guns were all adaptations of ground guns. The first was the 37 mm BK 3,7, a modified version of the FlaK 18 AA gun firing the same 37x263B ammunition. This meant that it was bulky, heavy and slow-firing by comparison with the NS-37, for example. It also remained clip-fed, with a maximum capacity of just 12 rounds. It mainly fired Hartkernmunition ammo, capable of penetrating up to 140 mm / 100 m / 90 degrees although this was halved at a striking angle of 60 degrees.
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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2008, 10:28:36 AM »
The 37mm was mainly used so destroying ships it would not do a thing to a tank.

Wrong. The Ju-87G was specifically designed to hunt tanks, not ships.

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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2008, 10:34:00 AM »
It mainly fired Hartkernmunition ammo, capable of penetrating up to 140 mm / 100 m / 90 degrees although this was halved at a striking angle of 60 degrees.



Armor penetration of that very "3,7cm Panzergranate mit Hartkern" at 100m and 600m respectively.
Y axis is armor thickness in mm, X axis is angle of impact.
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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2008, 02:16:51 PM »
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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2008, 07:15:52 PM »
O.K.Vansy Pansie we got graphs and shift. Show me some ship hitting photos.  Also show me some photos of that remote controlled P-51 you were supposed to be flying in...... :rofl
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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2008, 07:18:50 PM »
O.K.Vansy Pansie we got graphs and shift. Show me some ship hitting photos.  Also show me some photos of that remote controlled P-51 you were supposed to be flying in...... :rofl
I have seen guncam footage that was clearly targeting small ships. The Ju87G was designed to be a tankbuster, though.

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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 12:02:33 AM »
oh my im not going to argue what it was used for, but yes  iagree it would be a nice addition.

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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 01:06:54 AM »
Bring on the Ju87G!!!  I will use it to HO IL-2's!!! :rock
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 01:44:18 AM »
Bring on the Ju87G!!!  I will use it to HO IL-2's!!! :rock
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Re: Ju 87G
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 07:17:55 AM »
Bring on the Ju87G!!!  I will use it to HO IL-2's!!! :rock

You will lose most of the time.

You do it now with Hurri D too? Because it's about the same. Two large cannons with low ROF and little ammo vs a much better armored plane (Il2) with much more ammo.

I will always think the B-24H is the ultimate HO plane

It isn't. A too big target, not maneuverable enough, and quite vulnerable at Head On's. Il2's, 110Gs, P47's, A8's better at this.
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