General Gun Discussion

[bsdaddict]

Regarding the OP, I support open carry 100% and believe the saying "An armed society is a polite society" holds a lot of truth.  But I'm really only posting to say nice sig, Maverick! 

[Angus]

Does the revolver have problems in severe frost?

[Jackal1]

Does the revolver have problems in severe frost?

Only if you have a habit of wizzin on the cylinder.

[lazs2]

I don't like severe cold.. I don't even like snow so I wouldn't know from first hand experience but I have never heard of any gun freezing up unless it was wet or the type of grease or oil was too heavy.

lazs

[lazs2]

This may surprise some but I think open carry in cities is a bad idea.

I believe that open carry out in the country is an ok idea just because it is easier to carry powerful firearms out in the open.. ones you may need to get to quickly to defend against animals.

In the city.. it makes no sense.. scares the children and warns the bad guys who to take out first.  It also probly aggravates some and causes bravado in others.

Concealed carry in cities is and extremely good idea tho.. the bad guys don't know who is or isn't armed.. it simply gives the good guys a big advantage.. it makes, me at least, feel better knowing that in a crowd.. at least some responsible citizen is armed and has the courage to defend the rest of us if need be.

lazs

[Ripsnort]

This may surprise some but I think open carry in cities is a bad idea.

I believe that open carry out in the country is an ok idea just because it is easier to carry powerful firearms out in the open.. ones you may need to get to quickly to defend against animals.

In the city.. it makes no sense.. scares the children and warns the bad guys who to take out first.  It also probly aggravates some and causes bravado in others.

Concealed carry in cities is and extremely good idea tho.. the bad guys don't know who is or isn't armed.. it simply gives the good guys a big advantage.. it makes, me at least, feel better knowing that in a crowd.. at least some responsible citizen is armed and has the courage to defend the rest of us if need be.

lazs

Agree with Lazs 100%.  One must use common sense. For instance, we have a 4x4 group that gets together and heads for the muddy trails. A couple of guys carry open. No problems.  Now, if they went to Seattle and walked the streets the same method of open carry, yeah, you're going to get stopped most likely by a cop on a bike (lots of metro areas use cops on bikes).

Common sense is the key here.

[wrag]

If I stop you and you put a gun on the dash, we are going to have a problem. And, by problem, I mean you, asphalt, handcuffs, gunpoint kind of problem.

There is no open carry here in Oklahoma besides transporting and even then, they must be unloaded. If you are a CCW permit holder, you MUST tell me that you have a weapon. If I find it on you, without you telling me, kiss your CCW permit goodbye.

I am from Arizona and I have open carried before (before my LEO time as well). I agree that maybe it would deter some crime but I think it incites unwanted attention from both sides of the law. Go CCW and put it out of the publics eye.

I carry off duty when I can. I have two jobs so sometimes I can't.

Oh, and I can CCW in any state AND on airplanes. Neener Neener!

Think you might create a problem for yourself doing the above in the state of Nevada which is where I'm talking about.

The point I was trying to make was it is LEGAL to carry on your person or in your vehicle as long as it is OUT in the open where an officer can see it!

[lazs2]

Even in the "wild west" open carry was frowned on in many towns but concealed carry was fine..  that is why there were millions of "pocket guns" produced as "civilization" crept in.    Out in the country it is fine to carry openly.. no one is bumping up against you and no one is wondering if you are a good guy or a bad guy or what..

In the city it is an extremely good idea to allow anyone who wants to carry concealed in all places.

As was mentioned.. weapon retention may not be such an easy thing with the hustle and bustle of a modern city.   You also stand out.  While you may deter crime to an extent.. any serious life threatening crime.. you will be the first to go.

lazs

[Mojava]

 Here you go folks, from the Liberal judges to you. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91911666&ft=1&f=1001 Guess all that gun paranoid, lefties coming after our guns stuff was all a bunch of delusional bs. That talk radio is warping your brain.

[ZetaNine]

"The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the Second Amendment of the Constitution guarantees an individual right to bear arms. That's a huge shift in Constitutional law."


no..... it's not.

[Mojava]

"It is the first time the Supreme Court has unequivocally taken this position on the second amendment." That wouldn't be consider a shift in policy?

[ZetaNine]

"It is the first time the Supreme Court has unequivocally taken this position on the second amendment." That wouldn't be consider a shift in policy?

policy?  yes

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

"It is the first time the Supreme Court has unequivocally taken this position on the second amendment." That wouldn't be consider a shift in policy?

Your position and statement implies there was no dissent. The vote was a narrow 5-4. Further, there were TWO opinions of dissent, both signed by all four in dissent.

The court has actually declined to hear most 2nd Amendment cases. So, it seems it would be hard to determine there was a shift, since up until now, they weren't hearing the cases, so there's not much way to determine what their policy was, other than not to hear the cases to begin with.

[Saurdaukar]

Your position and statement implies there was no dissent.

Simpler that way.

The significance of the decision is that the court has taken the stance that the 2nd Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms and is not merely for the protection of state militias.

Strict interpretation of the amendment.  Im pleased.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Well, he failed to read ANY of the TWO dissenting opinions. BOTH written and signed by the liberal wing of the court, and both struggling to interpret the 2nd Amendment by anything BUT the law.