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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2008, 01:06:17 PM »
Don't you have a base to vulch or a hoard to fly in.. or is it a slow day in squaksville.

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2008, 01:11:18 PM »
At least he has some.
Let's face it, the prediction code / collision code needs work.  As it stands, you can spray someone with a nanosecond burst and BOOM...and other times, same planes you can spray with cannon rounds (YOU THINK you are hitting them) and nothing happens.  What YOU see and what the server sees is totally different. 
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2008, 01:14:14 PM »
This right here is prime example of how bad AH sucks these days. This is the film I took that above shot from, but in reality this could be any of the sorties from today or any other day.

I'm skirting the edges of a Nit - Rook furball flying as a Bish just looking for a good fight. I see an A6m about co alt and looks like the other cons are far enough away to let me get a good fight. So I engage the A6M but next thing you know every gangtard within 5 miles is trying to cherry pick me.

You know I just don't get it either, what makes someone want to be the 4th or 5th guy chasing a single plane? I can somewhat understand the first Ki84 jumping in, but why the 109? The second ki84? The Spitfire? The P51?  

The really sad part is none of them shot me down I augered. I lasted about 4 mins in this fight and augered because I couldn't pull out of a roll being I was missing a flap. I mean serious how sad is that, 5 or 6 guys couldn't kill me I had to kill myself? I think it was 6 cons on me at the start went down to 4 after I got a little distance from the others. Hell I even had a set of bombers that came by shooting at me and none of them actually shot my plane down.

Anyway this is the film..  http://www.wargamerx.com/temp/p40.ahf

Just please tell me this.. what does the 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th or 6th guy think he will add to the fight?
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2008, 01:16:18 PM »
Touch a nerve, did I?

No I don't even have a clue who you are other than seeing your name here on the forum. However, just the fact that you see nothing wrong with being a gang tard or a vulcher tells me all I need to know about your flying style.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2008, 01:17:15 PM »

Let's face it, the prediction code / collision code needs work.  As it stands, you can spray someone with a nanosecond burst and BOOM...and other times, same planes you can spray with cannon rounds (YOU THINK you are hitting them) and nothing happens.  What YOU see and what the server sees is totally different. 

You are completely wrong, especially as your basic premise is non-valid. The server doesnt "see" anything. The server doesn't decide anything, neither in collisions nor if you did hit(and damage) your enemy.

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2008, 01:25:41 PM »
This right here is prime example of how bad AH sucks these days. This is the film I took that above shot from, but in reality this could be any of the sorties from today or any other day.

I'm skirting the edges of a Nit - Rook furball flying as a Bish just looking for a good fight. I see an A6m about co alt and looks like the other cons are far enough away to let me get a good fight. So I engage the A6M but next thing you know every gangtard within 5 miles is trying to cherry pick me.

You know I just don't get it either, what makes someone want to be the 4th or 5th guy chasing a single plane? I can somewhat understand the first Ki84 jumping in, but why the 109? The second ki84? The Spitfire? The P51? 

The really sad part is none of them shot me down I augered. I lasted about 4 mins in this fight and augered because I couldn't pull out of a roll being I was missing a flap. I mean serious how sad is that, 5 or 6 guys couldn't kill me I had to kill myself? I think it was 6 cons on me at the start went down to 4 after I got a little distance from the others. Hell I even had a set of bombers that came by shooting at me and none of them actually shot my plane down.

Anyway this is the film..  http://www.wargamerx.com/temp/p40.ahf

Just please tell me this.. what does the 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th or 6th guy think he will add to the fight?
Sooo lemme get this right. You want to jump into a sea of red and NOT get ganged?
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2008, 01:26:51 PM »
5 or 6 gangtards all hording one low and slow bandit has been going on since the beginning of online flight sims, so let's not pretend that it's something new.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2008, 01:27:06 PM »
You are completely wrong, especially as your basic premise is non-valid. The server doesnt "see" anything. The server doesn't decide anything, neither in collisions nor if you did hit(and damage) your enemy.


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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2008, 01:28:13 PM »
No I don't even have a clue who you are other than seeing your name here on the forum. However, just the fact that you see nothing wrong with being a gang tard or a vulcher tells me all I need to know about your flying style.

Where was it that I said I saw nothing wrong with being a gang tard or vulcher?

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2008, 01:32:41 PM »
Sooo lemme get this right. You want to jump into a sea of red and NOT get ganged?

I didn't jump into a red of sea.. I was trying to get the zeek to come out and fight me. I was trying to get him out away  from all the others but he started closing in faster than I expect so I had to turn and engage him. At that point all the other cons run in trying to get a lame pick kill.

That's what I'm asking.. Why does the average AH tard feel the need to be the 3rd person chasing a single con much less the 5th or 6th? I mean seriously if I dove into a sea of red I could expect to get ganged. I didn't do that, they came to me trying to pick after I was engaged with the zeek.

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2008, 01:36:40 PM »
I was at a friendly base one night as it was captured.  I started out fighting a couple of cons that were there.  Pretty soon there were at least 20 cons up all chasing me.  So, the moral of the story is, don't worry about the first 6 or 7  :D
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2008, 01:39:17 PM »
I didn't jump into a red of sea.. I was trying to get the zeek to come out and fight me. I was trying to get him out away  from all the others but he started closing in faster than I expect so I had to turn and engage him. At that point all the other cons run in trying to get a lame pick kill.

That's what I'm asking.. Why does the average AH tard feel the need to be the 3rd person chasing a single con much less the 5th or 6th? I mean seriously if I dove into a sea of red I could expect to get ganged. I didn't do that, they came to me trying to pick after I was engaged with the zeek.


You were picking at the edges of a rook/nit fight. What did you expect?
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2008, 01:42:17 PM »
5 or 6 gangtards all hording one low and slow bandit has been going on since the beginning of online flight sims, so let's not pretend that it's something new.

It hasn't always been this bad. Granted there has always been gang tards hell I can remember playing MS CFS and can remember gangtards in that game. The difference is now days there is just so much less actual fighting. It's all the sore potatos that can't do anything but cherry pick a lone con who is already fighting 2 or 3 others.


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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2008, 01:48:16 PM »
You were picking at the edges of a rook/nit fight. What did you expect?

Yea your right.. I must be playing wrong game. Here I thought this game was about air combat not trying to rack up as many easy kills as I could land. I expected to have a good fight with a con or two that was also out skirting the edges of a furball looking for a good fight. What on earth was I thinking, it's pretty clear this isn't that game I thought it was.

For some odd reason I thought Aces High was about air combat not air quake.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2008, 01:54:00 PM »
What you want is a dueling arena.