Intolerance in education...

[wrag]

Yeah, it's regular and sustained harassment all right, wondering why you post so much.  There was a time "pre-skuzzy" when I seem to remember Pyro stating among his rules that no one was to start more than one thread a day.

Asking twice in seven months why you start so many threads hardly qualifies as harassment unless you really feel paranoid.  But heck, you're not paranoid if I really am out to get you.      

Dago you seem to have a problem with me?

Wanna explain the REAL reason for your problem?

I ask because I've explained TWICE in 7 months why, AND I've tried to be polite both times.

Otherwise I think I'll just ignore you from this point onward.

As to the BBS rules then and now...

TAKE IT UP WITH HTC PLEASE....

[Motherland]

Ah... when I first clicked on this I figured this was about a ruling about creationism not being allowed to be taught in public schools... but it's not.
Now that I've read it... perhaps it's not right, but I still think it's kind of silly to teach what was written down 3,000-4,000  years ago by primitive Hebrew farmers over modern science. Do they still teach that the world is flat in Christian schools as well, I wonder?

Sheer idiocracy.
If children do not get balanced information of a subject how in the world can they be expected to form a balanced opinion?
Even thought I do not ascribe to the biblical myth I think that it should be covered in the curriculum. As should other religious perspectives.

As a student in the American public school system I can confirm that in at least some curriculums (by some I mean that at least in the one I was taught) a wide variety of mythology is taught.

[Dago]

Dago you seem to have a problem with me?

Wanna explain the REAL reason for your problem?

I ask because I've explained TWICE in 7 months why, AND I've tried to be polite both times.

Otherwise I think I'll just ignore you from this point onward.

As to the BBS rules then and now...

TAKE IT UP WITH HTC PLEASE....

Being a little sensitive tonight aren't we?

I just asked if you were homebound, and I asked out of concern.  My old squaddie whels is, and I have always held him in my heart and respected the enjoyment he has found in AH.  Sorry if your previous answer escaped my memory, I don't commit your life to memory.  I just thought possibly someone who starts a half dozen threads a day might be confined to his home due to health reason.

You are going to lead me to ask if you are a woman next what with your delicate nature.

Of course you can ignore me, and continue to spam this board all you want.  My feelings won't be hurt.

[iWalrus]

[Cthulhu]

"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am." ~~ Clarence Darrow (1857-1938)

Damn wrag, I'm impressed. Next I'm gonna find out you actually know who John Scopes was, and then I'll have to change my whole opinion of you.

Oh and BTW, Dago and I are both stalking you, but he keeps bogarting the binoculars.

j/k

[wrag]

Damn wrag, I'm impressed. Next I'm gonna find out you actually know who John Scopes was, and then I'll have to change my whole opinion of you.

Oh and BTW, Dago and I are both stalking you, but he keeps bogarting the binoculars.

j/k

 

Yep but I thought everyone knew about the Scopes Monkey Trial.

They even made a movie out of it IIRC.  It was Spencer Tracy in one of the leads wasn't it????

So... your saying Dago is JEALOUS?

[Dago]

Yep but I thought everyone knew about the Scopes Monkey Trial.

They even made a movie out of it IIRC.  It was Spencer Tracy in one of the leads wasn't it????

So... your saying Dago is JEALOUS?

Inherit the wind.  Excellent movie.

Yeah, I'm jealous.   

[mietla]

Do they still teach that the world is flat in Christian schools as well, I wonder?

flat world is an invention of XIX century "historians". The fact that the earth is a sphere has been known for thousands of years.

A reminder of a statue in Ephesus showing the round world at the feet of one of the rulers (don't remember which one)


Shinto/Buddhist temples in Japan often have two statues of lions. A female on one side a male on another. A female has her paw on a little cub, a male has it's paw on a sphere symbolizing the world.

Imperial insignia in Byzantium consisted of a scepter (symbolizing the power) and an "apple", a sphere with a cross on top of it symbolizing the world dominated by Christianity.

A (now destroyed) statue of Justinian in Constantinople, look what he holds in his left hand... a globus cruciger

Wikipedia:

"The globus cruciger (Latin, "cross-bearing orb") is an orb (lat. globus) topped (lat. gerere = to wear) with a cross (lat. crux), a Christian symbol of authority used throughout the Middle Ages and even today on coins, iconography and royal regalia. It symbolises Christ's (the cross) dominion over the world (the orb), literally held in the dominion of an earthly ruler (or sometimes celestial being such as an angel). When held by Christ himself, the subject is known in the iconography of Western art as Salvator Mundi ("Saviour of the World"). It is associated with the sceptre."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Column_of_Justinian

[Cthulhu]

Inherit the wind.  Excellent movie.

Yeah, I'm jealous.   

Great movie.   Was pleasantly surprised to see Gene Kelly in it.

A reminder of a statue in Ephesus showing the round world at the feet of one of the rulers (don't remember which one)

Been there, but I don't recall the statue. Was still recovering from the nude beach in Greece.

[AquaShrimp]

I went to a Christian school for 7 years.  When it comes to science, they are a bunch of whacko's.  Fortunately I went to a public high school.

[AKIron]

This Californian University obviously has an anti-christian agenda. I  defy anyone here to deny it. You want evidence? How about the FACT that private schools (christian schools make up a significant portion) students do better and are better prepared for college on average than their public school counter parts? I wonder if they are supporters of affirmative action? If they were really concerned about academic preparation they would not be.

John 3:19

"And this is the basis for judgment: The light has come into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light because their actions were evil."

[Elfie]

"Our argument is that the government has to be neutral when it comes to viewpoint."

I couldn't agree more with that statement.

I'm not sure how UC will prevail in this lawsuit since (according to the article) they don't disallow any religion in textbooks except Christianity. UC has also apparently stated that various textbooks would be allowed if just the Biblical references were removed. So it's not like the content of the textbooks is in question, only the religious references, in this case, references to Christianity.

[SkyRock]

is IMHO getting out of hand!

Wonder if they say this stuff about Islamic based education?

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69997

I remember when the lefties screamed about the hold the right had on education during the 60's and 70's and how the right was abusing sooooo many....

So the educators of that time bowing to the so called demands of the people let the left take over?

IMHO we are now having WORSE treatment from the academic LEFT!

AND IMHO this is a form of DISCRIMINATION and intolerance!

This is NOT about evolution vs creationism....

This is about CONTROL IMHO....

"When you sit down to negotiate on what you already have, you lose." ~~ Rep. Marie Parente

"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am." ~~ Clarence Darrow (1857-1938)

"According to my observations, mankind are among the most easily tamable and domesticable of all creatures in the animal world. They are readily reducible to submission, so readily conditionable (to coin a word) as to exhibit and almost incredibly enduring patience under restraint and oppression of the most flagrant character. So far are they from displaying any overweening love of freedom that they show a show a singular contentment with a condition of servitorship, often showing a curious canine pride in it, and again often simply unaware that they are existing in that condition." ~~ Albert Jay Nock; The Memoirs of a Superfluous Man

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it" ~~ George Bernard Shaw

schools/knowlege................faith/church

[Vulcan]

Sounds to me like intolerance by christianity.

I don't see how you can weasel their god into a science textbook say like physics or chemistry. And I would be mightily concerned over the quality of a science textbook that included religious (fantasy) references. Or is it even worse - have these books been approved by 'the church' based on their content? The fact that they have to wedge religion into these boxes sound like a very insecure place to me, if your religion needs to be forced into all aspects of learning than you have some issues.

[lasersailor184]

Sounds to me like intolerance by christianity.

I don't see how you can weasel their god into a science textbook say like physics or chemistry. And I would be mightily concerned over the quality of a science textbook that included religious (fantasy) references. Or is it even worse - have these books been approved by 'the church' based on their content? The fact that they have to wedge religion into these boxes sound like a very insecure place to me, if your religion needs to be forced into all aspects of learning than you have some issues.

Sounds to me like intolerance by Vulcan.

I don't see how you can weasel your beliefs into other people's textbooks.  And I would be mightily concerned over the quality of a science textbook that included socialist mandates from Vulcan.  Or is it even worse - have the standard public school books been approved by Lord Communism based on their content?  The fact that you have to wedge your belief into these boxes sound very much like insecurity to me, if your "(anti)Religion needs to be force into all aspects of learning then Vulcan has some issues.