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Offline wrag

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Intolerance in education...
« on: July 19, 2008, 11:53:25 AM »
is IMHO getting out of hand!

Wonder if they say this stuff about Islamic based education?

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69997

I remember when the lefties screamed about the hold the right had on education during the 60's and 70's and how the right was abusing sooooo many....

So the educators of that time bowing to the so called demands of the people let the left take over?

IMHO we are now having WORSE treatment from the academic LEFT!

AND IMHO this is a form of DISCRIMINATION and intolerance!

This is NOT about evolution vs creationism....

This is about CONTROL IMHO....

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It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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Re: Intolerance in education...
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2008, 12:03:30 PM »
"As WND reported earlier, the University of California system adopted a policy last year that basic science, history, and literature textbooks by major Christian book publishers wouldn't qualify for core admissions requirements because of the inclusion of Christian perspectives."

A state university federally funded. This would seem to be a direct violation of the 1st Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


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Wonder where the ACLU stands on this? <rolls eyes>
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Re: Intolerance in education...
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2008, 12:23:55 PM »
This is one reason I hate the Public School system so much. Which btw, was originally patterned after that of Proto-Nazi Prussia, "kindergarten" and all.

There was a time in this country when commonly the villiage atheist and the villiage parson would hold great debates over checkers at the country store, iced tea in hand. To the amusement of all, I might add. Now thanks to the mandatory government education camps, our "civilization" is progressed to the point that people go to court, and try to pass laws to teach their opinions to children of those who disagree with them.

(BTW, before anyone raises the issue, I am a firm believer in Darwin's theory of evolution. I'm just not comfortable taking a man's money from him to teach his children something he does not agree with.)

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 12:42:39 PM »
This is one reason I hate the Public School system so much. Which btw, was originally patterned after that of Proto-Nazi Prussia, "kindergarten" and all.

There was a time in this country when commonly the villiage atheist and the villiage parson would hold great debates over checkers at the country store, iced tea in hand. To the amusement of all, I might add. Now thanks to the mandatory government education camps, our "civilization" is progressed to the point that people go to court, and try to pass laws to teach their opinions to children of those who disagree with them.

(BTW, before anyone raises the issue, I am a firm believer in Darwin's theory of evolution. I'm just not comfortable taking a man's money from him to teach his children something he does not agree with.)


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Here IMHO we have a person that UNDERSTANDS..............

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It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2008, 05:32:34 PM »
Oh the irony!!!  Look at the University of California school logo.  It says "Let there be light."  They need to change that because that is a quote from the Bible.  Genesis 1:3 - And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

According to their own rules that is unacceptable.  After all, it doesn't matter in what context those words are used, they are a quote from the Bible and hence, of Christian perspective.  Until they change their logo, that means their own curriculum doesn't measure up to the standards they have set.




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Re: Intolerance in education...
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2008, 05:55:30 PM »


nevermind.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2008, 05:58:51 PM by iWalrus »
That's all.

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2008, 06:25:33 PM »
Sheer idiocracy.
If children do not get balanced information of a subject how in the world can they be expected to form a balanced opinion?
Even thought I do not ascribe to the biblical myth I think that it should be covered in the curriculum. As should other religious perspectives.
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Re: Intolerance in education...
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2008, 06:55:15 PM »
Therein lies a problem.

Basically, just how many "religious perspectives" are you going to teach? All of them? Take alot of time out of class when they could be practicing long division.

The only solution I can think of, in a society that doesn't want any government institution to take a stand on religion (a good idea, IMO), is that the kids should be taught whatever about religion/origins the parents are paying to have them taught.



Sheer idiocracy.
If children do not get balanced information of a subject how in the world can they be expected to form a balanced opinion?
Even thought I do not ascribe to the biblical myth I think that it should be covered in the curriculum. As should other religious perspectives.

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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2008, 07:05:54 PM »
Therein lies a problem.

Basically, just how many "religious perspectives" are you going to teach? All of them? Take alot of time out of class when they could be practicing long division.

The only solution I can think of, in a society that doesn't want any government institution to take a stand on religion (a good idea, IMO), is that the kids should be taught whatever about religion/origins the parents are paying to have them taught.

Read the article.


This is not about teaching divine theory in standard classes.  It's about UC (worthless college anyway) refusing to even acknowledge college classes taught at christian high schools.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2008, 07:28:52 PM »
Not to get too off topic, but are you housebound wrag?  Just wondered why you are on the board so much you start more threads than the next prolific three posters combined.  I think today I counted six you had started on page one alone. 
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Re: Intolerance in education...
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2008, 08:23:55 PM »
Sheer idiocracy.
If children do not get balanced information of a subject how in the world can they be expected to form a balanced opinion?
Even thought I do not ascribe to the biblical myth I think that it should be covered in the curriculum. As should other religious perspectives.

A fair point but it is not what this thread or article is about :)
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2008, 08:26:12 PM »
Not to get too off topic, but are you housebound wrag?  Just wondered why you are on the board so much you start more threads than the next prolific three posters combined.  I think today I counted six you had started on page one alone. 

Nope not house bound.

It's Saturday and I went online and saw stuff I thought was interesting and worthy of discussion.

As to number of post....

There are many others that have and do post more.....
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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Re: Intolerance in education...
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2008, 08:33:01 PM »
Not to get too off topic, but are you housebound wrag?  Just wondered why you are on the board so much you start more threads than the next prolific three posters combined.  I think today I counted six you had started on page one alone. 

I seem to notice a pattern of harassment here. :uhoh


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Re: Intolerance in education...
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2008, 09:03:49 PM »
I seem to notice a pattern of harassment here. :uhoh


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Yes I have noticed such and commented to such before. :(

Apparently my previous replies were forgotten or ignored?  :huh

I suppose I could go through saying it all again but your reference might be enough.  :)

I also suppose I could call it to the attention of ............... :O

But it is possible that all that is necessary is wait until it is read? :D

Thank you for your response Sundowner  :salute  Sir
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2008, 09:24:54 PM »
Yeah, it's regular and sustained harassment all right, wondering why you post so much.  There was a time "pre-skuzzy" when I seem to remember Pyro stating among his rules that no one was to start more than one thread a day.

Asking twice in seven months why you start so many threads hardly qualifies as harassment unless you really feel paranoid.  But heck, you're not paranoid if I really am out to get you.   :rofl   :rofl

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