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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #225 on: August 10, 2008, 07:10:35 PM »
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^^ Russian Propaganda puppet.

Repeating... no Georgians are emptying villages into mass graves. No Georgian troops are raping and killing innocent unarmed civilians. There's a war going on there, people are dying in the crossfire, in the artillery barrages and in the airstrikes. There's a democratic American allied nation there; putting down an illegally armed insurgency and THEN attempting to repel an invader.. you expect them to do it with paint balls?
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #226 on: August 10, 2008, 07:11:08 PM »
<< BREAKING NEWS >>


I just called my friend in Atlanta and he said NO RUSSIAN TROOPS THERE!

Been to Atlanta, the Ruskies wouldn't stand a chance in that town. No need for the Army to do anything! LOL!
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #227 on: August 10, 2008, 07:23:12 PM »
^^ Russian Propaganda puppet.

Repeating... no Georgians are emptying villages into mass graves. No Georgian troops are raping and killing innocent unarmed civilians. There's a war going on there, people are dying in the crossfire, in the artillery barrages and in the airstrikes. There's a democratic American allied nation there; putting down an illegally armed insurgency and THEN attempting to repel an invader.. you expect them to do it with paint balls?
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #228 on: August 10, 2008, 07:23:59 PM »
Horsepucky.

More russian propaganda..   

No Georgians are shoveling dirt on mass graves. Georgians have not been practicing ethnic cleansing.

The horrific circumstances that lead us into the Serbian situation on the moslem side differ HUGELY with what's happening in Georgia.
You miss the point.  Regardless of the events leading up to it, the Serbs have seen a portion of their country taken away from them under threat of more NATO bombing.

Russia warned at the time that it was a dangerous precedent, by the way.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #229 on: August 10, 2008, 07:39:00 PM »
Wow. Just wow.

The Serbs?  How easily the comparison is made, how very easily Hangtime's point is ignored.

There would have been no NATO involvement at all if it had been a civil war. Clearly, it was more than that. It was genocide. THAT'S what drew the attention of the world and eventually led to NATO involvement.

Think about this: It was so bad in Serbia that the FRENCH sent combat troops. That's really saying something there.


And before you go all huffin' and puffin' you can search this very BBS and find posts of mine where I agree with Boroda that the NATO involvement was a clear violation of the NATO charter.

Nonethe less, to compare the slaughter by the Serbs to the Georgia/South Osetia tiff is ludicrous. Jeebus, is history that quickly forgotten?
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #230 on: August 10, 2008, 07:39:45 PM »

<< Breaking News>>

Atlanta Falcons stopped training camp upon hearing the news of Russian Invasion. Georgia Governor thinks Florida has something to do with it.  Lots of confusion...State Troopers still looking for troops but can't find them.


I'll post more when my "sources" check in.

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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #231 on: August 10, 2008, 07:39:59 PM »
You miss the point.  Regardless of the events leading up to it, the Serbs have seen a portion of their country taken away from them under threat of more NATO bombing.

Russia warned at the time that it was a dangerous precedent, by the way.

Regardless of the events leading up to it? Are you smoking crack? seriously.....

The events in Kosovo is what prompted NATO to do something. The ethnic cleansing in Kosovo was no longer going to be tolerated. So far there is no third party verification of any genocide or ethnic cleansing on the part of the Georgians, only allegations by the Russians. South Ossetia is still a province of Georgia. (It won't be for long, Russia will either annex it or unify it with North Ossetia imo.)

Who started this round of fighting is still in dispute.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #232 on: August 10, 2008, 07:45:57 PM »
Regardless of the events leading up to it? Are you smoking crack? seriously.....

The events in Kosovo is what prompted NATO to do something. The ethnic cleansing in Kosovo was no longer going to be tolerated. So far there is no third party verification of any genocide or ethnic cleansing on the part of the Georgians, only allegations by the Russians. South Ossetia is still a province of Georgia. (It won't be for long, Russia will either annex it or unify it with North Ossetia imo.)

Who started this round of fighting is still in dispute.

Georgia just made counter ethnic cleansing accusations against the Russians.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #233 on: August 10, 2008, 07:50:34 PM »
I doubt the RUSSIANS care very much about what did or did not cause NATO involvement in Kosovo.

What they did care about at the time was the result.  NATO is supporting the break-up of Serbia, against Serbia's wishes.

They are now doing the same in Georgia.  Equal result.  Tit for tat.

It is so clearly obvious.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #234 on: August 10, 2008, 07:53:11 PM »
Slow your roll, holmes.  If you have basis to your arrogance/ignorance, I'd love to read it.

Show me your source for a coupla thousand massacred unarmed south ossetians.

...in fact, while we're showing rolls, 'holmes', just which banned personality are you this week?

You miss the point.  Regardless of the events leading up to it, the Serbs have seen a portion of their country taken away from them under threat of more NATO bombing.

Did I? Or did you? When you line folks up in front of a pit and commit genocide on a national scale, harsh steps must ensue. Seen any evidence for any kind of Gerogian Genocide?

Russia warned at the time that it was a dangerous precedent, by the way.

So was Hiroshima. Ukraine has nukes. Still wanna play the precedent game?
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #235 on: August 10, 2008, 08:01:43 PM »
They are now doing the same in Georgia.  

Except of course that in this case there is no possible reason to justify their actions.

Unlike the Serbian slaughter, there's no proof of any Georgian slaughter.

You can wear your blinders, point only to the result and pretend it's the same but again, that's a ludicrous position.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #236 on: August 10, 2008, 08:02:49 PM »
So was Hiroshima. Ukraine has nukes. Still wanna play the precedent game?
I am not playing any precedent "game."  It isn't my game to play.

I think you have misunderstood my statement when I said Russia's actions were "understandable."  I meant it follows a certain logic.  I never said nor meant to imply I agreed with their actions.  Clarify matters for you?
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #237 on: August 10, 2008, 08:03:13 PM »
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #238 on: August 10, 2008, 08:08:10 PM »
I  I meant it follows a certain logic.  


Sure, it follows a certain Russian logic. We want it, we'll take it, we're on the UNSC and you can't do jack about it.

That logic.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #239 on: August 10, 2008, 08:10:20 PM »
I am not playing any precedent "game."  It isn't my game to play.

I think you have misunderstood my statement when I said Russia's actions were "understandable."  I meant it follows a certain logic.  I never said nor meant to imply I agreed with their actions.  Clarify matters for you?

When I was a kid, my folks taught me that 'just because Billy gets away with crapping in the wheaties without having his bellybutton paddled, doesn't mean you can'.

Your intent is to indicate that Russia's actions in Georgia are excusable by a moronic dodge like 'precedent'? It didn't work... when I was a kid, or for you; now, and it won't for the Russians, either.
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