USSR reborn?

[Boroda]

And you assume Obama is better? Obama is a whimp. Only reason Russians want him to get elected. So you can get away with things again.

I don't a specialist in distinguishing different kinds of crap. I can say that OTOH our relations with Republicans are better then with Democratic presidents.

[angelsandair]

You export not "freedom" or "democracy" but mass-murder and humanitarian catastrophes. I don't want some foreign crooks to dictate me my country's policy by carpet bombings and cruise missiles.

Lets see, we are, and HAVE done a whole lot better than the Russians. Go look at Afghanistan. Didn't you guys murder, not killed in crossfire, but COLD bloodedly MURDERED something like 50,000 Civilians? And dont get me started on the ones caught in crossfire.

[Elfie]

Kosovo is a separatist province of Serbia, controlled by KLA, a terrorist organisation, that performed ethnic cleansings against native Serbian population.

The only evidence we saw of ethnic cleansing in Kosovo was that done by the Serbians. Serbians were forcing Kosovans out of their homes at gun point and not even trying to hide it. More Russian propaganda pewps.

Ossetia is a classic "divided nation", and it has a right to re-unite like Germany.

That needs to be done diplomatically then. Although I must say, that statement coming from a Russian is pretty rich. East/West Germany anyone? Also, if Russia was so concerned about North/South Ossetia reuniting, then why did Russia create North Ossetia and leave South Ossetia as part of Georgia? Simple reason is that Russia wasn't concerned about it.

[moot]

Someone is hallucinating.

Vesti FM?
Did Vasili Lickhachev not recently say: “The West has spent a lot of time, energy and money to teach Georgia the tricks of the trade . . . to make the country look like a democracy,”

[Yeager]

You export not "freedom" or "democracy" but mass-murder and humanitarian catastrophes. I don't want some foreign crooks to dictate me my country's policy by carpet bombings and cruise missiles.

we will crush you!


lol  

[FrodeMk3]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4535173.ece

Read down, though. This is the part that get's alarming:

“George Bush's Administration is promoting interests of candidate John McCain,” said Dr Markov. “Defeated by Barak Obama on all fronts, McCain has one last card to play yet - the creation of a virtual Cold War with Russia . . . Bush himself did not want a war in South Ossetia but his Republican Party did not leave him any choice.” The Americans were now engineering an armed conflict between Ukraine and Russia, Dr Markov added.

That language can be interpreted as the Ukraine is next-and I'd bet soon.

[Boroda]

The only evidence we saw of ethnic cleansing in Kosovo was that done by the Serbians. Serbians were forcing Kosovans out of their homes at gun point and not even trying to hide it. More Russian propaganda pewps.

There is no evidence of ethnic cleansings done by Serbs. No intl commission found anything there.

Serbs started a police operation against KLA only after bombings began.

That needs to be done diplomatically then. Although I must say, that statement coming from a Russian is pretty rich. East/West Germany anyone? Also, if Russia was so concerned about North/South Ossetia reuniting, then why did Russia create North Ossetia and leave South Ossetia as part of Georgia? Simple reason is that Russia wasn't concerned about it.

Create?! It was given to Georgia in 1921. Georgia denounced 1921 treaties and therefore lost it's souverignity over Abkhazia and SO.

[Boroda]

Lets see, we are, and HAVE done a whole lot better than the Russians. Go look at Afghanistan. Didn't you guys murder, not killed in crossfire, but COLD bloodedly MURDERED something like 50,000 Civilians? And dont get me started on the ones caught in crossfire.

We also killed Kennedy and Jesus.

Iraq lost over a million people since 2003. You killed over 4 million people in Vietnam.

[Boroda]

If Russia is an aggressor there - then why did about 100,000 refugees flee SO and moved to Russia?... I mean - in early 90s.

Georgia was independent for 21 years in XX century and already started 7 wars...

[moot]

Read down, though. This is the part that get's alarming:

That language can be interpreted as the Ukraine is next-and I'd bet soon.

That'd match the apparent Russian anticipation of a Cheney conspiracy (tongue in cheek; maybe): so much russian military ready to roll from T=0.


Boroda - Your numbers have been very wrong very often in the past.  I recall even people like Widewing pointing out the ridiculously big holes in your pretentions. Something about Russian planes over some warzone or other, back in the cold war? The only thing you have going for you is a few posters who for some reason (I don't know what if not friend's loyalty) will defend you.. That doesn't do anything for your credibility, though.

[Hangtime]

That'd match the apparent Russian anticipation of a Cheney conspiracy (tongue in cheek; maybe): so much russian military ready to roll from T=0.


Boroda - Your numbers have been very wrong very often in the past.  I recall even people like Widewing pointing out the ridiculously big holes in your pretentions. Something about Russian planes over some warzone or other, back in the cold war? The only thing you have going for you is a few posters who for some reason (I don't know what if not friend's loyalty) will defend you.. That doesn't do anything for your credibility, though.

what credibility?

[moot]

Well I'm not the information ministry, so I won't pretend to speak for Boroda on that matter...

[angelsandair]

We also killed Kennedy and Jesus.

Iraq lost over a million people since 2003. You killed over 4 million people in Vietnam.

Are you serious? Dude, you're an idiot. After this post, you've become #1 on my idiot list.


But hey, you cant fix stupid can you....


Highest numbers average around 200,000 and lowest average to as low as 80,000. Wrong again idiot.

[Holden McGroin]

We also killed Kennedy and Jesus.

Iraq lost over a million people since 2003. You killed over 4 million people in Vietnam.

Iraq Body Count shows 86,609 to 94,490 civilian deaths due to violence since invasion

[Boroda]

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Iraq Body Count shows 86,609 to 94,490 civilian deaths due to violence since invasion

You mean directly killed by "liberators"?

I remember a number of 700,000 victims in Australian news in Oct 2006. Australian news - a good source? Don't you know there is a civil war?