Hiding the Lockheed plant during WWII

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

USA was producing bombers and fiters every few secs.

A jig is only a piece of plywood with a shape cut into it, duh? All ya had to do was get another piece of plywood.

No, a jig for an assembly of a P-38 was not a piece of plywood with a shape cut in it. Unless you've figured out how to hold a few thousandths of an inch tolerance with a piece of plywood.

I made a living for a while making parts and assemblies for Peterbilt trucks. The jig that was used to make the floor pan assembly for the Peterbilt 387 truck had to hold about 1MM tolerance. That jig, to make a flat floor pan, no bigger than the floorboard of a semi truck, was sure as Hell not a piece of plywood. In fact, the jig took nearly a MONTH to build, in 2001. It took a week just to set it up and certify it to hold a 1MM tolerance.

When you have some sort of grasp on what it takes to manufacture a complex aircraft, and hold tolerances on assemblies that require a fit of 0.030", you come back and tell us all about how you can do it.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

A hand saw and a piece of plywood is all thats required to make a new jig.

This is sooo funny. I know for fact neither of you '1 bomb' fewls are in a position of management. I can imagine you guys at a stockholder meeting... "uh, a tree in the parking lot was hit by lightning so we missed the production goals by 99 pecent. instead of 100 p38s we built 1.

Let me quote Donald Trump...
"YOU'RE FIRED!!!"

LOLOL

I'll tell you what, chump, I don't just manage, I own my own company. You take a hand saw and make a jig out of plywood and hold a tail boom assembly for a fighter plane to a tolerance of 0.030". I want to watch. Hell, you can't even spell, I can just imagine how well you read a blueprint.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Since bombing the crap out of Germany still left Germany with quite some production numbers, I tend to think that the task would have been difficult with the USA...

Make a detailed comparison of P-38 production, from start to finish, to the production of German fighters. It is like daylight and dark.

[Chalenge]

Nevermind its all coming to me now.

[Schlowy]

I'll tell you what, chump, I don't just manage, I own my own company. You take a hand saw and make a jig out of plywood and hold a tail boom assembly for a fighter plane to a tolerance of 0.030". I want to watch. Hell, you can't even spell, I can just imagine how well you read a blueprint.

.0030 of a what? Units pls!
Thats alot of significant digits but, if it was inches and some fewl thought it was centimeters... then your spaceshuttle just blew up!
I'm sure that the margin for error was plenty such that the p38 would still be a p38 plus or minus a few tenthousandsths? of an inch? heh

BTW
HE CALLED ME A CHUMP... ban him now!!!
He not banned? ok, me call him a name now too...
Virgil how shamed you are, read a book on 'falacies', don't attack the person, attack the argument.
You attacked my spelling, hurt my feewings,  ... Ya Grammar Queen!

The camaflaging (spelling) was there to improve the company employees moral, make them 'feel' safer. As for the netting over the parkinglots... it was for shade! I'll give ya a lil and say it was also to deter Japan from bombing.
USA wasn't skeerd!

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Schlowy driveled:[/I].0030 of a what? Units pls!
Thats alot of significant digits but, if it was inches and some fewl thought it was centimeters... then your spaceshuttle just blew up!
I'm sure that the margin for error was plenty such that the p38 would still be a p38 plus or minus a few tenthousandsths? of an inch? heh

BTW
HE CALLED ME A CHUMP... ban him now!!!
He not banned? ok, me call him a name now too...
Virgil how shamed you are, read a book on 'falacies', don't attack the person, attack the argument.
You attacked my spelling, hurt my feewings,  Sad ... Ya Grammar Queen! ROFL!

The camaflaging (spelling) was there to improve the company employees moral, make them 'feel' safer. As for the netting over the parkinglot

I gave you the tolerance in exact and correct form (by the way moron, I posted 0.030", that is thirty thousandths of an inch). The fact that you cannot read it shows I was indeed correct, you cannot even read a blueprint, and as such are not even close to qualified to comment on the subject at hand.


I am not the least bit ashamed. Given what you posted to begin with, and I quoted it, I gave you your due, and that is very little.

You should read a book on reading and following blueprints, and follow it with a few books on reading, comprehension, spelling, and grammar. Maybe in 20 years or so you might be qualified to offer something on the subject at hand.

[Schlowy]

Soo sorry about mistaking 0.030 for .0030, but you didn't put units, and I was laughing to much while posting that, still am. 

Imma leave you alone now! USA wasn't skeerd! P38s production was just fine!

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Soo sorry about mistaking 0.030 for .0030, but you didn't put units, and I was laughing to much while posting that, still am. 

Imma leave you alone now! USA wasn't skeerd! P38s production was just fine!

Still not able to read? The units are there, plain as day. That you do not see them speaks volumes as to both your ignorance and your arrogance. Once again, I posted 0.030", which is thirty thousandths of an inch. See, the symbol " is the correct symbol for inches as given on blueprints. Since you apparently can neither read nor spell, is a picture required? If so, get someone to post one for you.

[Bronk]

Hmm let me get my GLASSES so I can read this thread.

[Murdr]

Gosh, this is a tough one.  To give credence the engine builder, and P-38 enthusiest/historian...Or the formerly banned, and soon to be banned again clueless troll.

Oh, this is so tough, I'm still deliberating 

[Schlowy]

Finally, i see it, a ", putting a " is fine for on schematics, but not on a typing document or forum.
I didn't see it before, i was only skimming yer stuff because of how rediculous your '1 jap bomb could defeat the p38' theory is.

Advice for you, don't turd into wind.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Finally, i see it, a ", putting a " is fine for on schematics, but not on a typing document or forum.
I didn't see it before, i was only skimming yer stuff because of how rediculous your '1 jap bomb could defeat the p38' theory is.

Advice for you, don't turd into wind.

Advice for you: Avoid attempting to argue subjects you have no knowledge of. But by all means, continue to speak of "turds", I'm sure you are an expert on the contents of your skull, so you should be able to lecture on the subject of "turds", with you being an expert and all.

[Schlowy]

Murdr, this is from the other thread, you can switch Karnak's name for yours.

Posted by Schlowy:
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Karnak has arrived, 10,000+ -posts... with a mossie in his sig...

A brilliant correlation I just realized... I was sitting here having my coffee and toast...
*A planes performance is directly proportional to the total number of posts of a plane sig'ed player*
Data set A: player with a 190 in sig gets a total of 10 posts before he is banned = 190 sux in game
Data set B: player with a mossie in sig gets a total 10,000+ posts and not banned = mossie rules in game
(drum roll)
Me bets this function is linear... brilliance, Imma win the nobel prize!
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Check the ROC mr Murdr. You are not a mod, you are 'backseat' modding when you say i'm going to get banned. Smart guy like you could find the ROC rule number yes?

Murdr, wth anyways?
He says 1 jap bomb could have killed p38 production. Read the thread? He silly, I done for now!

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

There were close to 10,000 Lockheed P-38 Lighting aircraft built between 1941 and 1945. Between 1941 and 1945, there were some 2 million minutes. So at best, there was a P-38 built every 3 hours, not one every few minutes. Even then, that doesn't mean it took 3 hours to build a P-38, that's just how far they were spaced apart on the production line. Your entire argument is pure fallacy, easily dissected and shown to be completely without merit. You SHOULD be done here, you contributed a grand total of nothing to begin with, save a pitiful distraction from the actual subject at hand.

[Ack-Ack]

The camaflaging (spelling) was there to improve the company employees moral, make them 'feel' safer. As for the netting over the parkinglots... it was for shade! I'll give ya a lil and say it was also to deter Japan from bombing.
USA wasn't skeerd!

Don't let your self sense of national pride blind you to the facts.  There was a real fear of attack on the West Coast by the Japanese.  To deny there wasn't a fear is just denying the historical facts.  If you're ever in the San Diego area, take a cruise to Pt. Loma and Cabrillo Point.  Look at all the shore battery emplacements that are pointing towards the Pacific, I'm sure you think those were placed and manned solely for morale and not to actually defend our coast from enemy attack.  I'm sure you also believe that the East Coast also faced no danger from enemy attack, despite all the U-boat sightings (confirmed) off our coast and even having shipping attack and sunk within sight of the shore.

You should take this time to throw in the towel and concede defeat, otherwise you'll just continue to look the fool.


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