Pony B Population

[CAP1]

OK.....I can't jump in on the last few posts, as i don't fly any of these high speed fighters.


would any of you be able to help me learn them in the TA? or anyone else that mayu be interested in learning them?

i can usually get there at around 9-ish or so on weeknights..eastern time.

thanks!

[Steve]

Steve, you should fly the 109K-4 more often.  I try my best in the K-4, but I still find it far easier to kill with the P-51D because of the great ballistics, high speed maneuverability, and superb e retention.

Well for as much as I suck at this game( I get told this multiple times each day)  if the k4 is indeed a worse plane than  the 51, I'd just suck that much more.   

I'm going to take a little while today and reconsider my involvement on 200 and these boards. I've been back for around 2 months after taking most of 18 months off and this last month have been getting vicious PM's and things on 200 types to me. It detracts for the enjoyment of the game and I really like playing this game. For the most part, the stuff in the game can be considered "heat of the moment" stuff... heck I am guilty of this too. But look what is being typed on the boards, far removed from any competition:
 

Sorry, the only thing that impresses me about Steve is his mastery of the BNZ pick.  Other than that, he has only one other skill, and that's to run.  He couldn't pull a reversal for a million bucks.
It's easy to fly a fast plane and get a lot of kills.  I respect someone who stays in the fight despite being at a disadvantage and still wins.
I wish we could do something about these gamey players.  Maybe I should put on the wishlist the creation of a player counsel to remove dweebs that do this kind of stuff. You know, vote them off the island..

His ego is only matched by his mouth too.  Such a shame.  I feel sorry for his kids.

I have to admit, to find out I am a negative factor in the community makes me feel quite dejected. I wouldn't want to be a killjoy. Perhaps I need to remove myself from the boards and 200.  There's no way to not show country text in game, is there?

[Anaxogoras]

Steve, people are more often resented for their achievements than their defects.  That's just a small but important lesson life has taught me.

P.S. I almost always detune 200.

[A8TOOL]

Would it be in vain to defend against those statements or have you already tried?

 200 is the complain and smack talk channel. I know your a Muppet and it is requirement to give people a hard time and carry a big ego but you really don't have to if you don't want to. It sounds to me like you should just go with your gut feeling on this one Steve. Turn off 200, try not to speak much and continue as you were.

Enjoy the game

[BnZ]

Ignore that crap dude. You let me and other noobs ride with you to pick up pointers whenever , you're a nice guy, and TOO modest if anything.

I guess the films of you doing reversals and whacking better turning planes are meaningless.

Those who think it easy to get lots of kills bnzing anything other than the spawn at the end of the runway have never tried it. Those who think they are "leet" but think a sim pilot should be banned from the game for more or less following Hartmann's dicta are ridiculous. Not that you OPHA from what I've seen. Or maybe you do, but only because you shot down the bandit and only NEEDED one pass. :

Well for as much as I suck at this game( I get told this multiple times each day)  if the k4 is indeed a worse plane than  the 51, I'd just suck that much more.   

I'm going to take a little while today and reconsider my involvement on 200 and these boards. I've been back for around 2 months after taking most of 18 months off and this last month have been getting vicious PM's and things on 200 types to me. It detracts for the enjoyment of the game and I really like playing this game. For the most part, the stuff in the game can be considered "heat of the moment" stuff... heck I am guilty of this too. But look what is being typed on the boards, far removed from any competition:
 
I have to admit, to find out I am a negative factor in the community makes me feel quite dejected. I wouldn't want to be a killjoy. Perhaps I need to remove myself from the boards and 200.  There's no way to not show country text in game, is there?

[Steve]

Would it be in vain to defend against those statements or have you already tried?

 200 is the complain and smack talk channel. I know your a Muppet and it is requirement to give people a hard time and carry a big ego but you really don't have to if you don't want to. It sounds to me like you should just go with your gut feeling on this one Steve. Turn off 200, try not to speak much and continue as you were.

Enjoy the game

I tried to respond to some of the statements, even took some people up on their challenges to go to the DA. When things went badly for them there, I said nothing except <S> and thanks for the fights, just quietly returned to the MA and never mentioned it. I haven't heard from these people in the MA since then but  I'd rather go to the DA to learn things.  I went there with Twinboom the other day and learned a couple of cool things. I'd rather learn and have fun there than duel chest thumpers.

I am a bit caught off guard by the ego thing.  When referring to my own game experience I don't remember tooting my own horn much. I tend to think things like this:

My way of flying is no measure of skill either. What I mean is, I fly a 51.  IMHO a 51 is much easier to survive in the MA than say.. a spit 5. Even though I was ranked #1 in fighters, we know I'm by no means the best stick in the game.  Sure, I can do ok in a 51, but put me in say a jug, 38 or hog against some of those guys that fly them regularly and they'd eat my lunch. We could make a list of those guys but it would take up pages

I know there are some continent sized egos in the muppets, but I didn't consider myself one. Anyway, I believe you are right, I'm going to have to walk away from 200.

[A8TOOL]

I know there are some continent sized egos in the muppets, but I didn't consider myself one. Anyway, I believe you are right, I'm going to have to walk away from 200.

Good idea,

Just out of curiosity, how did you end up a parolee in such a short amount of time?

[Steve]

Good idea,

Just out of curiosity, how did you end up a parolee in such a short amount of time?

I've been around since 2002.  I used to let the trolls get to me in the Oclub, now I let them be.

[SectorNine50]

Sorry to hear about the trash talk Steve, I know how sometimes it can detract from the fun in the game.

But to get back on topic, I highly doubt I'm a better pony stick, Steve.  I just got started flying the B model this year!   Maybe that is the difference though, perhaps the B model is a better match against the D9 in terms of performance differences.

[Steve]

Sorry to hear about the trash talk Steve, I know how sometimes it can detract from the fun in the game.

But to get back on topic, I highly doubt I'm a better pony stick, Steve.  I just got started flying the B model this year!   Maybe that is the difference though, perhaps the B model is a better match against the D9 in terms of performance differences.

That could be it. For whatever reason, I had a harder time landing hits w/ a B-pony. Not just kill shots, but pings in general.  This could be some sort of mental block  for me though and might not have anything to do with the plane. 


BnZ, thanks for the kind words. I have found that when I have someone ride with me, I often learn things too.  It's good to get different perspectives of things, especially as a fight unfolds in real time. Kind of cool to see how one person sees it compared to how I see it.

[infowars]

I've been killed by Steve often.     But thats my bad and I admire him for it.  I also mostly fly the 51 however not very good.  But I am adult enough to admit...  "I wish I could fight like Steve"
 

[Spikes]

I took the pony B up once or twice, the 4 50s just so far apart isn't enough for me.

[Bucky73]

B pony is a ton of fun to use in this game. It's just hard for me to pick it over the D model if it's available. The only 190 I have trouble with is the A-5. The rest are usually not a problem to kill using the pony. The K-4 is an awesome ride but I hate the visibility and I tend to have trouble puttin those tators on target sometimes.

[Chalenge]

Steve responses like that indicate that you have hit them where it hurts worse and thats a good thing. Love to fly with you or Rogent either one or anyone else devoted to the 51. I get responses like this every day (usually on PM) and I dont care. I used to SS them and record and now I just ignore them or call them out on 200 to knock it off.

Narrow minded people with narrow vision will never reach your level of proficiency. 

[1pLUs44]

Shot placement is important in any plane you choose. Choosing a plane that carries enough ammo to spray and pray with is a different story. Even the TBM can get some good kills if you can find a decent 1 vs. 1. That particular plane is considered an easy kill and  can attract a lot of sharks, but if you can hold the guns on them long enough..poof

One of my favorites is the Fm2 which like the B carries only 4 50's. Umfortunately the plane seems to loose it's guns easily once your hit in the wings. I recently had a nice 1 vs. 1 with AkAk in mid war. His first pass on me took two of them out. We fought down from like 12k for about 3-4 minutes. In the end, my 2 50's did just fine and down he went. It was the only time he ever said nice fight to me.

I love the FM-2, because it's such a slow plane, shot placement doesn't really matter IMO. I'm such a good shot with it. Since the P-51B is so fast, it's harder for shots.