An axis versus allies arena

[Fokker]

I would like to see an arena where one side could only use axis planes and the other only use allie planes.

They did this in Warbirds and that arena became the most popular. It was called the WW2 arena.

[Ripsnort]

Hmm..from what I've seen in AGW, it becomes an Allied vs Axis with 70 on one side and 30 on the other...not good considering the nature of the posts I've read over there since implementation.

FYI: Don't expect HTC to follow WB's path, expect WB's to follow HTC's path.  

I'm certainly game for anything to an alternative to the Main. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum8/HTML/001260.html

[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 04-17-2001).]

[Vermillion]

No thanks.  The Axis vs Allied arena has done more damage to the WB's community than any single idea yet. Its a continuous gangbang with side switchers constantly floating back and forth for the plane of the day.

Not here, please, not here.

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**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by Vermillion:
Its a continuous gangbang with side switchers constantly floating back and forth for the plane of the day.

Well, the only saving thing here in AH is that we have a 12 hour side switching rule, WB's is 10 min I think...

[Squidzilla]

Have the AH arena set to a 72 hour time limit between switches.

[Apache]

Instead of an MA and an Axis & Allies arena, how about an ETO and a PTO arena? Still fly what you want in the arena's but the planeset is limited to the specific theater. I know there would be debates on aircraft used in a theater but you get the basic idea.

Example: Tired of fighting N1k's and Corsair's? Go to the ETO and fight 109's, 190's, Spits, etc.

Needs work I know.

[This message has been edited by Apache (edited 04-17-2001).]

[Fokker]

In the allie/axis arena numbers will change just like it does in any other arena. MA in AH is not imune towards this.

I found the WW2 arena very nice, and many other must have too, since it fast became the most popular arena.

With the choice of all planes at any time, there will not be a switch of side because of the plane of the day.

However, that made an effect which where realistic. At the start of the tour there where always more LW planes than allie planes, this changed towards the end of the tour. Just as it did in reality during WW2.

[Vermillion]

But thats the point Fokker, I don't want to recreate the outcome of WWII day in and day out. The AvA is great if you like to fly Allied iron, but if you like Axis planes, forget it.

I love scenarios, and in my opinon thats the place for such things.

I don't want to fly for a side where its a foregone conclusion that if I log on tonight I will find out that my side is outnumbered by 2-1 or 3-1.

If the Axis vs Allied arena's were such a huge success, why haven't player numbers went way up when a flat rate was introduced? Because in my opinon, alot of players hate the AvA. True some really like it, especially a very vocal minority on AGW. But some players will follow the herd (the old "critical mass" discussion) no matter which arena type they prefer.

The others just log off, and cancel their accounts.

I think many of us here in AH are quite familiar with whats going on in WB's and how the AvA arena there is doing.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[Fokker]

That is not right. Remember that when it was introduced in WB they had had the AH style for years.

They kept the MA after ww2 was introduced, so both parts should be happy. The ww2 arena became the definetly most popular.

If both MA and a ww2 arena where set up in AH we would soon find out what players like. Having a ww2 arena is much like having a SE available at any time, and SEs are popular.

[Fokker]

The other argument about how WB and AW is doing now has nothing with the arenas to do. At present AH is the sim offering most variation. WB still has no ground vehicles and only an AI controlled fleet.

My reason for leaving WB was just that AH offered more. Not the way the arenas was setup.

We will get a fairly good test of all this when WW2OL comes online. WB3 is also on its way with more content. The competition amongst sims will harden.

I am certain that the WW2 arena setup has a large player base. If AH do not have such an alternativ i am afraid they will all leave for WW2OL.

[LLv34_Camouflage]

 

Originally posted by Fokker:

We will get a fairly good test of all this when WW2OL comes online. WB3 is also on its way with more content. The competition amongst sims will harden.

I am certain that the WW2 arena setup has a large player base. If AH do not have such an alternativ i am afraid they will all leave for WW2OL.

WW2OL's main emphasis is on ground stuff. It is a totally different kind of game than AH or WB.

Camo

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[Fokker]

I still have my account with WB and are often in to see how the development of WW3 is progressing.

I am also following the WW2Ol closely. I dont think I am the only one. We will always be looking for the game that offers most of what we like. Loyalty to one special game can only take a small toll of less value.

WW2OL will cost 9$ a month to play. Some will look at that as important. WB is at present at the same cost as AH. Rumours has it that AH will become more expensive.

I like AH best at the moment, but the game must evolve and take into account that variation in gameplay and content is a great must, even for those who mainly do A2A, like I do myself.

[sling322]

 

Originally posted by Fokker:
Rumours has it that AH will become more expensive.

I call roadkill on this one.  I have never seen or heard any mention of this by any HTC employee.

[Fokker]

Camouflage, if you have not looked at the WW2OL site yet, you should. Then you will see that they put a lot of emphasis on the A2A part and the flight model.

However, it is clearly a game that emphasis a WW2 teather, with a lot of variations in units you can man - in air, on ground and at sea. A game like that will attrackt players from all those games that specialises on one of those areas, because the variation is fun, and one has to expect a huge number of players.

Even I, who prefer the A2A game, is attracted by the great number of different targets this represent. I sure do also see the challenge of flying cover for ground forces like infantry and other units. And, on the other side, attacking the same units.

If the flight modell in WW2OL is good, comparable to AH, the WW2OL sure will seem to offer more value. To me the WW2 teather will be such a value.

I like AH, and that is why I would like AH to evolve in a way that makes me stay. However, I and other hardcore players sure are keeping a close eye on what goes on outside AH.

[hazed-]

couldnt have said it better fokker so i wont <S>

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