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Offline Stoney

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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2009, 04:26:36 PM »
they would drop 500lb bombs on the side of the tanks and the concussion would literally flip them over..

I don't think so...  This may have been some sort of anomoly or a bigger bomb, but I've seen plenty of 500 lb bombs hit tank hulks, and they don't move.  You can pop the turret, blow tracks off, etc., but, unless there's some sort of other situation at play, a 500 lb quick fuse bomb won't normally be able to flip the tank.  Perhaps with delay fuzes...I'm not even sure of that either.
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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2009, 04:33:43 PM »
500lbs would flip tiger II's over thats fact

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« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2009, 04:35:10 PM »
actually they did aim for the side of them.. i was reading the Il-2 pilots would do this

there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to aim to miss a tank with a bomb.  I really doubt any pilot would deliberately NOT hit the target, instead opting for a near miss.
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« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2009, 04:41:16 PM »
from what i read they did the best to place as close as the tank as possible but found a close hit would flip the tank over. i am sure they wanted to hit the tank directly.

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« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2009, 04:43:19 PM »
from what i read they did the best to place as close as the tank as possible but found a close hit would flip the tank over. i am sure they wanted to hit the tank directly.

as close to the tank as possible = on top the tank.

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« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2009, 04:49:18 PM »
500lbs would flip tiger II's over thats fact

A Tiger II?    Uhh, no.   
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« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2009, 05:21:03 AM »
I find it funny that an actual air combat vet is called a blowhard common idiot on a BBS filled with cartoon pilot blowhard common idiots.  :lol

wtf? I just quoted a comment from youtube.

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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #52 on: March 25, 2009, 06:10:06 AM »
I don't think so...  This may have been some sort of anomoly or a bigger bomb, but I've seen plenty of 500 lb bombs hit tank hulks, and they don't move.  You can pop the turret, blow tracks off, etc., but, unless there's some sort of other situation at play, a 500 lb quick fuse bomb won't normally be able to flip the tank.  Perhaps with delay fuzes...I'm not even sure of that either.

Then how do you explain the pictures on page 3? Driving too fast over a speed-bumb?

EDIT: I can't say if those were caused by a 500lb bomb though, or by a bomb at all! (maybe very very heavy mines?)

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« Reply #53 on: March 25, 2009, 07:18:35 AM »
Some info I found.

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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2009, 10:02:17 AM »
from what i read they did the best to place as close as the tank as possible but found a close hit would flip the tank over. i am sure they wanted to hit the tank directly.

You keep saying "I read..".  How about something besides your statements beginning "I read..." and give us the source your quoting?
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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2009, 10:28:03 AM »
If I recall correctly the shooting of .50 to bounce under the tank were NOT to penetrate the underside armour but rather to set it alight.  Like most heavy equipment tanks leak oil, mechanics get grease on stuff not intended for grease etc etc, so the idea was to get that stuff to burn and hopefully disable the engine making the tank useless.
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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2009, 10:52:35 AM »
its a little bit lighter but same effect


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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/496178/armored_tank_flips_iraq/

M1 Abrams being tossed about  about 63 tons

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/353820/tank_in_iraq/
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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2009, 11:29:27 AM »
M1 Abrams being tossed about  about 63 tons

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/353820/tank_in_iraq/

So instead of citing the works you "read" somewhere we get a video of a preset bomb underneath a tank moving it into the air a bit but still not flipping it.

Did you really read anything or are you just trying to sound like you know something?
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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2009, 12:45:17 PM »
when i can find the reference where i saw it i will send you the link. but it states the pilots would flip the tanks over with near misses from bombs. the video i showed show that its possible to move a tank and i bet those IED's arent near the powerful  of the 500lb bombs.. the abrams is 63 tons and it must have been tossed 10 -15 feet in the air with ease.

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Re: p-47's kill Tigers
« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2009, 12:57:17 PM »
FYI supporting your statements with videos of terrorist attacks on coalition forces in iraq is probably not a good idea.