La-7's armament

[trotter]

The only shortcoming is the range, which is easily handled by conserving fuel inbound.

Or flying to the fight on the deck, which usually results in a much much more fun fight. Confuses me to see LA's cruising looking for a fight higher than 4k.

[trotter]

And agree with the OP, does not make sense to have the most commonly gun configured versions of most AC, but then have the 3x20mm lala version which, if my memory is correct, represented less than 5% of LA-7's in service? (could be wrong).

Why are we not allowed the 4x20mm version of the Ki-84 then, if production numbers don't matter for variants purely in gun loadouts?

[Die Hard]

That doesn't negate the possibility that perking loadouts could improve the arenas' balance.

Sure, but then you would first have to show that the La-7's loadout is unbalancing in the first place.

[Boozeman]

The B 20 was not faster firing as implemented on the La7. ROC/per gun was the same for both the ShVak and the B-20 (per gun) The overriding advantage of the B-20 was that it was light. Infact 3 x B20's plus 450 rounds was lighter than 2 x ShVak with 400 rounds.

Actually, in AH the 3 cannon La-7 is 5 lb heavier than the 2 cannon one with otherwise same loadout.
So, albeit being a very rare installation, it's at least handicapped! 

[moot]

Sure, but then you would first have to show that the La-7's loadout is unbalancing in the first place.

Right, chicken and egg.  Let's just use the perk loadout system and see what's what.

[Die Hard]

Right, chicken and egg.  Let's just use the perk loadout system and see what's what.

No, not chicken and egg. The La-7 is not an unbalancing factor in the arena. There are not too many players flying it compared to other planes. That is the only thing that matters.




If you think something needs perking you first have to show that it is unbalancing the arena.

[Tec]

Those numbers need updating, I don't think either the N1K or LA7 are nearly that popular anymore.  But either way on that chart there are 76 A/C of which 4 make up 25% of usage.  That's not an imbalance?

[Masherbrum]

Or flying to the fight on the deck, which usually results in a much much more fun fight. Confuses me to see LA's cruising looking for a fight higher than 4k.

Agree, I'm doing the same thing in the La7.   

[Die Hard]

Those numbers need updating, I don't think either the N1K or LA7 are nearly that popular anymore.  But either way on that chart there are 76 A/C of which 4 make up 25% of usage.  That's not an imbalance?

No. There will always be favourites. As long as no one plane gets too dominant like the F4U1C did everything is ok. Should the P-51D be perked because 7% of players fly it? Of course not.

[Masherbrum]

No. There will always be favourites. As long as no one plane gets too dominant like the F4U1C did everything is ok. Should the P-51D be perked because 7% of players fly it? Of course not.

Those numbers are way off.   I've noticed more Ki-61's (which is why I don't fly it anymore, after it was being deemed a "POS" by most who now fly it.), Ta-152's and Spit 8's.    I see the Community straying from the Spit 16, La7.    I see more 51's and more 109's of all models. 

I'm not stating this as Gospel, but just from my perspective. 

[E25280]

March is almost complete, so using March . . .

P-51D   8.78%
Spitfire Mk XVI   7.14%
N1K2   4.20%
F4U-1D   3.59%
Il-2   3.17%
Typhoon IB   3.11%
La-7   3.06%

February data . . .

P-51D   8.85%
Spitfire Mk XVI   6.61%
N1K2   4.20%
F4U-1D   3.77%
Il-2   3.56%
Typhoon IB   3.28%
La-7   3.16%


Compiled from Kills + deaths for aircraft only (i.e. removing gunners and GVs) for Late War Arenas.

The answer is clear -- time to perk the Pony.   

[Lusche]

Those numbers need updating,

There had been an update: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255568.0.html

[Larry]

No. There will always be favourites. As long as no one plane gets too dominant like the F4U1C did everything is ok. Should the P-51D be perked because 7% of players fly it? Of course not.

Please tell me where you get that "7%" from.

[Lusche]

Please tell me where you get that "7%" from.

From my charts?

[Masherbrum]

Please tell me where you get that "7%" from.

Do NOT dispute Lusche's "charts".