Tempest vs Spitfire XIV

[MachFly]

Now there are RAF fighter pilots rolling in their graves, to match all USAAF doing so because the P-47D out-turns the P-51.

What?

[Ruah]

thank you for the testing and video's  , it was quite nice to see some low and slow fighting in two planes you rarely see do such things.  To me it looked like the tempest had a very solid showing against the spit 14 in all three fights (I watched them from the Spits interior because the view is a lot better).  It seemed like the tempest could really slow down quickly and get back to speed quickly, it seemed a lot more stable.

It was a fun watch, and I think it confirms what many people have already stated - do you really feel that unperking the spit 14 is a good idea? 

[SectorNine50]

What?

It is thought that the P-47 can not out-turn the P-51 in real life, not the case in-game.  I don't know the details of it's validity.

[MachFly]

It is thought that the P-47 can not out-turn the P-51 in real life, not the case in-game.  I don't know the details of it's validity.

It depends on the altitude, fuel load, and speed.

[vonKrimm]

Tempest retired in 1953, Spitfire retired in 1957

There were also less than 2000 of them, compared to the 20,000+ spitfires

The 1957 date is misleading; it pretains to a single XIX used for T&H Flights at RAF Woodvale.  The last RAF sortie was by a photorecon XIX on 1 April of 1954 over Malaysia.

The last RAF Tempest sortie was 6 June 1951.

[MachFly]

The 1957 date is misleading; it pretains to a single XIX used for T&H Flights at RAF Woodvale.  The last RAF sortie was by a photorecon XIX on 1 April of 1954 over Malaysia.

The last RAF Tempest sortie was 6 June 1951.

I'm not saying that I don't believe you, but just wondering, what are your sources?

[Angus]

Before seeing the source, I'll put my money on VonKrimm being right there, and if anything the SpitPR could have been used even longer. I had forgotten about them, but they were in service quite long.

[MaSonZ]

Be careful with your usage of the word "noob," 1.75 years in-game is still a noob to a lot of people who have been around for 5 times that.  Also, MORAY has almost half a year on ya.

3 years and i was considered a noob to those that had been around 3, some of them 4 times that. back on topic, I never liked the 14, saw no amazing things about it, except for speed on the other spitfires; the Tempest on the other hand...60 rounds more cannon than in the Typh, good for another 2 or 3 kills for a good shooter, faster than many planes in the game, dives well, has ord, if your Betty you could probably turn it well. just some thoughts of mine.

[Kweassa]

"Speed is king"


 'nuff said.

[Angus]

And at what alt 

[Guppy35]

The 1957 date is misleading; it pretains to a single XIX used for T&H Flights at RAF Woodvale.  The last RAF sortie was by a photorecon XIX on 1 April of 1954 over Malaysia.

The last RAF Tempest sortie was 6 June 1951.

Actually 3 Spitfire 19s at Woodvale.  All three still exist and are flying.  4000 met sorties in 1957

As for Spitfire XIVs and Tempests.  The comment of an RCAF Spit XIV pilot with 91 squadron regarding a certain Tempest pilot, in a logbook I have says it all   This was during Diver hunting time in the summer of 44.

[vonKrimm]

sources:

http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk/gallery/bbmf/last.htm
&
http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/other-military-aircraft/supermarine-pr-spitfire-mk-xix.htm

and I am only refering to RAF owned/piloted a/c.   jeez, if we count other countries then I think there were some spitxxiv that flew for the Queen's 1965 visit to Hong Kong.

[Guppy35]

sources:

http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk/gallery/bbmf/last.htm
&
http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/other-military-aircraft/supermarine-pr-spitfire-mk-xix.htm

and I am only refering to RAF owned/piloted a/c.   jeez, if we count other countries then I think there were some spitxxiv that flew for the Queen's 1965 visit to Hong Kong.

If you are responding to me, I was correcting the number of Spits you mentioned at Woodvale which were 3, not 1.  Not arguing about the 1954 Malaysia stuff.  The three at Woodvale were RAF birds leased to the met flight. PS853, PM631 and PS915 all remained under RAF control and 2 of the 3 are still part of the B of B memorial flight.

[MachFly]

sources:

http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk/gallery/bbmf/last.htm
&
http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/other-military-aircraft/supermarine-pr-spitfire-mk-xix.htm

and I am only refering to RAF owned/piloted a/c.   jeez, if we count other countries then I think there were some spitxxiv that flew for the Queen's 1965 visit to Hong Kong.

thanks, kinda bust right now to read it though. Should do it tomorrow or the day after.