« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 ... 15   Go Down

Author Topic: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast  (Read 5085 times)

Offline Heater

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1381
Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« on: June 01, 2009, 07:07:22 AM »
01 June 2009
 

Brazil's Air Force says it searching for a missing Air France passenger jet near the the Brazilian island of Fernando do Noronha.

An Air Force spokesman says the search and rescue mission began Monday morning after the jet failed to make regular radio contact.

The Airbus A-330, carrying more than 216 passengers and 12 crew members, was traveling from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.

The plane is long overdue for its scheduled (0915 UTC) landing at Charles de Gaulle airport.


http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN0133338520090601


Logged
HiTech is a DWEEB-PUTZ!
I have multiple personalities and none of them like you !!!

Offline Reschke

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7724
      • VF-17 "The Jolly Rogers"
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2009, 08:07:29 AM »
Apparently it was lost WAY off of Brazil's coastline. In fact it was lost far enough away that planes from Africa are involved in the air search as well. No one really knows where this plane was when it was lost.
Logged
Buckshot
Reschke from March 2001 till tour 146
Founder and CO VF-17 Jolly Rogers September 2002 - December 2006
"I'm baaaaccccckkk!"

Offline Anodizer

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1940
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2009, 09:10:39 AM »
This is the 3rd "accident" regarding an airliner out of Brazil in recent times.... 
I wouldn't fly in or out of there.......
Logged
I like classy, beautiful, intelligent woman that say the "F" word a lot....

80th FS "Headhunters"

Offline WilldCrd

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2565
      • http://www.wildaces.org
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 09:12:37 AM »
Quote from: Anodizer on June 01, 2009, 09:10:39 AM
This is the 3rd "accident" regarding an airliner out of Brazil in recent times.... 
I wouldn't fly in or out of there.......

Really? :confused:  I did not know that
Logged
Crap now I gotta redo my cool sig.....crap!!! I cant remeber how to do it all !!!!!

Offline bcadoo

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 685
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 09:35:56 AM »
Not a big fan of Airbus....
Logged
The fight is the fun........Don't run from the fun!
"Nothin' cuts the taste of clam juice like a big hunk o' chocolate" - Rosie O'Donnell

Offline Golfer

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6314
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 09:44:36 AM »
Quote from: Anodizer on June 01, 2009, 09:10:39 AM
This is the 3rd "accident" regarding an airliner out of Brazil in recent times.... 
I wouldn't fly in or out of there.......

There have been more.  While I might not ride around on some low rent operator I wouldn't think twice about getting on Air France tomorrow.  Nor would I feel bad about hopping on Delta going back down to Sao Paulo.

Quote from: bcadoo on June 01, 2009, 09:35:56 AM
Not a big fan of Airbus....

That's pretty foolish.  The A330 is, aw hell, no point even trying to have a conversation about it.
Logged

Offline 68Wooley

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 931
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 10:15:49 AM »
Quote from: Golfer on June 01, 2009, 09:44:36 AM
That's pretty foolish.  The A330 is, aw hell, no point even trying to have a conversation about it.

QFT
Logged

Offline Shuffler

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27070
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 11:25:05 AM »
Yup... the airbus did its part. It sent automated messages reporting electrical problems and cabin pressure drop. Seems it went into a storm. It would have to be unusually bad to bring down a big bird like that.
Logged
80th FS "Headhunters"

S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning In A Bottle)

Offline WilldCrd

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2565
      • http://www.wildaces.org
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 11:36:44 AM »
It must have been something catastrophic that happened very quickly to have kept the crew from sending out a distress message. unless the "circuitry" failure had something to do with the A/C radio's.
IIRC the alert msgs that planes send to their respective HQ's work on a separate system than the regular radio equipment.

It's also pretty unusual for a commercial jetliner to experience problems at cruising attitude. If or When they find her it will probably take years if ever to know what happened
Logged
Crap now I gotta redo my cool sig.....crap!!! I cant remeber how to do it all !!!!!

Offline humble

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6434
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2009, 11:56:33 AM »
Quote from: Anodizer on June 01, 2009, 09:10:39 AM
This is the 3rd "accident" regarding an airliner out of Brazil in recent times.... 
I wouldn't fly in or out of there.......

Actually Brazilian pilots are awful good. A lot of weather and flying in bad conditions. I used to fly around down there on business a bit and was always impressed with them. The real question I have is the plane itself. I never understood how a pilot could "break" a functional airframe just by using the rudder (AA 587)...been leary of the airbus ever since. My guess is upset/unusual attitude followed by catastrophic failure of the airframe...
Logged

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."-Pres. Thomas Jefferson

Offline expat

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1031
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 12:09:12 PM »
It's looking like over 200 people have died  , I would like to think that until the crash report is published everyone could keep their own feelings regarding airbus/Brazil   to themselves.
Logged
goggles on ,chocks away, last one backs a homo  hooraaaaaaaaay!

Offline Denholm

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9667
      • No. 603 Squadron
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2009, 12:24:33 PM »
Humble, that happened due to constant pressure exerted onto the vertical stab by vicious rudder movement. You try holding up a piece of carbon fiber in 240 MPH winds.
Logged
Get your Daily Dose of Flame!
FlameThink.com
No. 603 Squadron... Visit us on the web, if you dare.

Drug addicts are always disappointed after eating Pot Pies.

Offline rabbidrabbit

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3907
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2009, 12:34:53 PM »
Quote from: Denholm on June 01, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
Humble, that happened due to constant pressure exerted onto the vertical stab by vicious rudder movement. You try holding up a piece of carbon fiber in 240 MPH winds.

However...  The flight system was supposed to prevent that.
Logged

Offline Die Hard

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2009, 12:45:53 PM »
The official NTSB report of October 26, 2004 states that the cause of the AA 587 crash was the overuse of the rudder to counter wake turbulence. The A300 had accidentally flown trough the wake of a 747 and the 1st officer was incorrectly using the rudder in an attempt to stabilize the plane.
Logged
It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.

-Gandhi

Offline Die Hard

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2205
Re: Air France Jet Missing Off Brazil Coast
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 12:49:55 PM »
Quote from: rabbidrabbit on June 01, 2009, 12:34:53 PM
However...  The flight system was supposed to prevent that.

The computers are not in control of external forces acting on the plane. In this case the wake turbulence of a B747.
Logged
It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.

-Gandhi
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 ... 15   Go Up
« previous next »