Just thought id add a few things here.
British were the inventors of concentration camps in the boar war in south africa.
America was stolen from the native americans by a superior force that enforced its ways and beliefs on those that opposed it.
its not really that different throughout history.The strong have consistantly tried to enforce their will on the weak.Good or Bad mankind will always admire a warrior.Fanatical Anti-nazism is just that fanatical.
I dont agree with any of the nazis ideals but its still interesting to learn about them and judging by how many programmes we see on the war on tv im not alone in this.
Dowding you seem to take great strides to accuse anyone who mentions germans as nazi hero worshippers.Sure there probably are a few loons but so what? Im not one of them and i think this rudel guy has an incredible fighting history.I dont give a damn which side he was on.If we are talking who is the best fighter pilot etc politics dont come into it.Its pleasurable to read about our pilots because they were 'ours'
but to dismiss others achievements because of their beliefs would pretty much reduce your list of 'possibles'.
For me personally who is my most admired pilot of world war 2? JE 'Johnnie' Johnson DSO DFC 34 victories (+7 shared and 3 possibles).all in the spit,all were single engine aircraft and he as only once hit by enemy fire.If you have ever seen an interveiw of him you will see he exudes Britishness! stiff upper lip, determined, brave!
BUT what were his political beliefs?
well you know....I never asked!
i admire his bravery and fighting spirit.
Rudel sounds to me like a brave man in the extreme.Im not about to turn into a nazi beast because i read about his exploits.
Dowding Ram isnt asking you to admire his beliefs and he has stated it clearly.Stop riding his back will you?
If i say i like the stuka you pipe up angrily calling me a nazi,I of course am extremely offended and start calling you names.this turns the BB into a playground and you(among others
) are the cause.
if this post said rudel-nazi-what a lovely human being then i would help you beat the toejam up who said it.
all ram seems guilty of is being unable to express his emotions in english very well, he makes slight errors that end up spoiling his point now and again
but hell if i had to explain in spanish my views on the war i think id f*ck it up now and again too.
RAM : nazis are scum and i think you agree wholeheartedly.But you need to be carefull how you phrase things on this subject.Its easily misinterpreted as pro-nazi worship.
best stick to aircraft manuals!!! hehehe
'if i knocked his teeth out..blah blah'??????
wtf? we are talking about the systematic destruction of whole RACES of people by probably the most EVIL political force ever to walk the earth.Millions were brutally killed just for being who they were.PLEASE dont try to make such pathetic analagies.No wonder you piss people off.
Im more inclined to say if they fought for the nazis and wasnt a believer in their ideals they should have left.You get caught at the end of the war by the lynch mob?(nuremburg) TOO F*CKIN BAD
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'NAIL EM UP I SAY'
As for britain starting WW2? jesus people havent you read about Poland? READ PLEASE
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Hazed
3./JG2'Lest we forget'
[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 05-08-2001).]
