P-47M whine whine whine

[Hooligan]

I admit the new twisty early war planes in the forthcoming version are fun but we could really use the P-47M.  The -M would make a pretty nice MA plane.  It's performance would be competitive in the MA but I doubt that it would merit perking on that basis.  At typical MA altitudes our current P-47 set are just not that capable, and are therefore rarely seen.

Hooligan

[Karnak]

Performance at typical MA altitudes hasn't help the Spit XIV get unperked.

[bj229r]

I admit the new twisty early war planes in the forthcoming version are fun but we could really use the P-47M.  The -M would make a pretty nice MA plane.  It's performance would be competitive in the MA but I doubt that it would merit perking on that basis.  At typical MA altitudes our current P-47 set are just not that capable, and are therefore rarely seen.

Hooligan

N is useful enough at typical alts, just be mindful of wep useage

[MjTalon]

Only jug i know that can zoom climb holding 300PMH+ with WEP and zoom from 14-20k.

Just think if we had the M! 

[Wingnutt]

N is useful enough at typical alts, just be mindful of wep useage

I love jugs, but the N is not impressive.. and its the BEST jug in the game..  and when compare performance numbers of the best jug to those of to the best 109, best Corsair, best 190, best spitfire, it is hidiously outclassed almost every category.   sure there are a FEW things it has over some other 5 ENY planes..  like it has better gun than the hog-4 but the hog has better climb, acceleration, turn, etc etc no comparison.

as far as how it would fit in

If its the version that can carry ord, 5eny and perked the same as the C-Hog
if its the version that cannot carry ord,  5eny and free.
 

[Widewing]

I love jugs, but the N is not impressive..
 

Take one up to 30k or higher... It owns almost everything up there.

A P-47N can maintain 460 mph at 40k.


My regards,

Widewing

[BnZs]

If its the version that can carry ord, 5eny and perked the same as the C-Hog
if its the version that cannot carry ord,  5eny and free.
 

We'll have to hope against hope we get the sans-ord version then, because the 47M is still no La7 or Spixteen. Of course, giving it a perk price will mean almost no one will use it for the typical suicide porking run *anyway*, so let us hope those nasty irrelevant eggs don't get included.

[Wingnutt]

Take one up to 30k or higher... It owns almost everything up there.

A P-47N can maintain 460 mph at 40k.


My regards,

Widewing

That is exactly the PROBLEM..  you take it up to 30k ... then what?  your alone...  your in your peak performance envelope with no one to perform against.

gotta weigh the designed performance, against its useful performance..   yes at 30K it is a monster.. but its a lonely monster.

[Infidelz]

Sounds like a job for the player base. A few massive B-17 raids with P47 escorts over the HQ might convince some folks. I am just offering up an idea for the next mom.

Infidelz

[Stoney]

Didn't we just have this thread back in May?   

[Urchin]

I love jugs, but the N is not impressive.. and its the BEST jug in the game..  and when compare performance numbers of the best jug to those of to the best 109, best Corsair, best 190, best spitfire, it is hidiously outclassed almost every category.   sure there are a FEW things it has over some other 5 ENY planes..  like it has better gun than the hog-4 but the hog has better climb, acceleration, turn, etc etc no comparison.

as far as how it would fit in

If its the version that can carry ord, 5eny and perked the same as the C-Hog
if its the version that cannot carry ord,  5eny and free.
 

They are all more capable than the P-51s are, unless somethings changed within the past year or so.

[Wingnutt]

They are all more capable than the P-51s are, unless somethings changed within the past year or so.

51 has the speed trump card..

if it gets in a bind, it can usually just leave, unless the pilot has just really screwed up,  jug no so lucky.

[MjTalon]

51 has the speed trump card..

if it gets in a bind, it can usually just leave, unless the pilot has just really screwed up,  jug no so lucky.

Whic P-47N are you flying? 

[Wingnutt]

Whic P-47N are you flying? 

the poor accelerating one that is as helpless as a baby in the speed department when wep runs out.  without it, its slower than the D11.

the Ns biggest, and ONLY above average capability, is speed, and not even sustained speed, speed only when in WEP..  LA7, pony, K4, G2,  D9, Tiffie, Yak, C205,  can not only hang with the N long enough to run it out of WEP, but ALL of them accelerate MUCH faster, making it unlikely that the N will ever even make it to its top speed before being caught unless it has plenty of air underneath it.

So unless conditions are idea, it cant leave the fight, and when forced to stay is at a disadvantage in almost every category except guns.  sub par turning, accelerating, climb, average Roll rate.   Not to say its a "bad" plane.. but its not AT ALL IN ANY WAY "plenty good"  Which is what many of the people who don't want the M seem to think.

as far a 5ENY MA rides go, the N is among the poorest overall in terms of survivability. 

[Bodhi]

add the M, and add the serious engine teething issues along with it.