109 torque initiated rolls

[FireDrgn]

Sonicblu  he posted them  right there in his post

[Sonicblu]

AH is whatched films 1 2 and 3 firedrgn. Im asking for a film of a dogfight. Where this move is used. To help me see how to set it up.

[FireDrgn]

Dang  I missed that...  I might have to change my name to "Patrick"   

[lulu]

 

it says that kapitza  p. k.  was invited to swim by some friends     but he did not know how to swim.   
so he read a book on swimming and his friends joke him obviously. at the sea or in a lake (not remember exactly), all friends watched, he went into the water first time and ... he start to swim not so bad !!!    - ADVICE: all young people not follow this example, it works, if it works truly, for very few like kapitza p. k. REST OF US GO DOWN LIKE A STONE!

TY AGENT360 FOR THIS POST 

 

[Agent360]

I will try to film some tork roll kills tonight.

The move is also useful for strait line overshoots...got to have the timing down to get the kill as they go by.

[Tarstar]

Agent,

This is really good stuff.. Should be a sticky.. I've been trying to learn everything I can about the 109g2 g14 and K.. Not sure why but I just like the feel of them the best..

One thing though, I can't seem to play any of the film posted by you or Junky and I'm not sure why.. does anyone have any insight here? Thanks again for all the great info.

[JunkyII]

They may be old versions.......I have problems watching some of my films from a few months ago

[papjohns]

I cant seem to watch any of them....viewer just blanks out then crashes.

[Ardy123]

Guys, you don't really need films for this, follow the instructions he stated, and you'll get it. Also, once you have it down, experiment with..

1) forcing wing tip stalls and using the toque roll the nose to where u wanan go quickly. Also, try adding some rudder into it, aka, try and slam the nose up with the rudder and use the engine torque to roll the plane as its vert, then quickly have the nose drop and recover.

2) go to the TA and go fly through the hangers. At the top, do a hammerhead (where the plane yaws at the top for a 90deg reversal), and go inbetween the two bomber hangers. Try doing the hammerheads on both the right and left sides.

3) Mix the hammerheads with a flat scissors and see how much e you can retain.

4) do all the steps above again but using only half throttle.

5) then da creton and have him slap you around.

[Spikes]

No not really. They all have good tork. I would say the F4 and G2 are the easiest to do it in. The K4 is harder because it stalls more and has more tork making it hard to control at stall speed. The others tend to be more forgiving. The K4 will just spin out of controll and flop all over unless you realllllllly practice controlling it at stall.

This happens to me all the time with the K4 (when I do strap into it). I get a great rope but hold it to long, lose control, and the shot, and eventually the fight.

[Delirium]

I need to punt this again for a student in the TA.

Apologies all.

[JunkyII]

I need to punt this again for a student in the TA.

Apologies all.

All good, but arent the SAPP guys going to stone you for teaching someone how to fly the arch enemy of the P38?

[Ardy123]

I need to punt this again for a student in the TA.

Apologies all.

Delirium, so when are we gonna da? I wanna fight ya!

[papjohns]

maybe someone with the old viewer would be willing to fraps the narrated ones and throw them on youtube...? NOt so worried about the torque roll, as I have now augered myself approx 500 times into the ground trying to learn it and I am pretty sure I have the hang of it, more worried about the other films.