Author Topic: 3d P-47 model (Read 2359 times)

Voss · « **Reply #60 on:** February 17, 2001, 04:04:00 PM »

Sancho, as far as I know the latest greatest version (0.7), for Linux, can be found at:
http://perso.enst.fr/~jberger/mpov/mpov.html

This is Jerome Berger's build. You can also download the source and compile it yourself, as long as you are comfortable with make files. It's not hard, really. I'll be going to a hot swap system soon, and running both Win 98 and Linux. For now I'm stuck with Windows.

Jay, I'll try a few things later, including the GDivX player. Nothing's worked yet.

As far as the Modelling forum goes, I would rather have one here. No reason to have anyone heading over to another UBB when we all like AH.

For those interested, the best place to learn about Pov (aside from 1-on-1's with me) is to head over to Pov's newsgroup (news.povray.org). You could literally spend a year over there and never read all of the information available. You could also get lost and never find your way back!

I usually stick to the povray.unofficial.patches forum, but I have also been known to frequent povray.binaries.images and povray.binaries.animations as this is where you see all the talent at work. p.b.i sees about a thousand posts per week during peak usage, and keeping up on things can get out of hand. It would be *much* better if we could keep things here where discussions would remain on the topic of modelling, textures, and the use of specific utilities. If a forum ever does appear here, I can just about guarantee we'll see a few new users pop over to help and play too!

Anyway, I've got a ton of errands to run today, as well as install a new HD. See ya'll later, and keep on tracing!

Melvil · « **Reply #61 on:** February 17, 2001, 09:21:00 PM »

Hey everyone. I had to do a format on this hard drive today, so I haven't had time for my wrench.

I'll see if I can't get it up here tommorow though.

BTW, just for the record, Blender can also do that motion blur. Iv'e used it plenty on helicoptors.

And Sancho, Your planes look great!

-Melvil

Voss · « **Reply #62 on:** February 18, 2001, 01:02:00 AM »

Now I can swap hard drives like they were floppies!

Can blender also do media? Photons work with it? I'll check it out as soon as I get Linux on this soon to be empty drive

I hear Linux is also the fastest version of Pov. If that's true I am going to be very happy.

Anyone have any interesting models? I'm working on a 1:1 detail Mustang. It's a lot of work for something I just play with, but I figure I'll have the best Mustang going

Maybe I'll figure out a way to do this faster for the next model. Sancho has built a great Jug, so I was going to do a P-38 next (in more detail).

I already have the rudimentary beginnings for a lot of planes, but nothing like what I would call detail. The P-51D is the exception there. I was going to do the 109 G-10 in detail as well, but I think I'll finish the four most prevalent planes first.
The P-51D, of course, then the P-38, the P-47 (may not repeat Sancho's work), and the PBY Catalina.

And pilots, anyone good with Poser?

Tyro48 · « **Reply #63 on:** February 18, 2001, 03:09:00 AM »

After you invest all of this artistic work can it be skinned to the AH planes?

Tyro48 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 18, 2001, 03:17:00 AM »

$795 for Rhino sweet jesus!

Sancho · « **Reply #65 on:** February 18, 2001, 05:55:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Tyro48:
$795 for Rhino sweet jesus!

Actually, you can download the demo for free. The only limitation is that you have something like 25 saves and then the program won't let you save any more. If you're conservative, you can get a lot of work out of those 25 saves.

There's also a deal for students whereby you can get the program for $150 which isn't so bad if you or a relative is in school.

I don't know if these skins could be used on HTC's planes. POV uses different texturing methods than 3ds-max, which I believe they use. I sure do wish they'd add more skins or allow user-made skins. My hope is that if we ever do get a P-47M, we'll have it in blue 63rd FS camo though.

I'm just trying to make the best P-47 I can make though; this isn't necessarily for a game. I don't like playing with paint and glue to make real models, so I do it on my computer.

PakRat · « **Reply #66 on:** February 18, 2001, 08:36:00 PM »

Damn! Sancho, that's beautiful work! Absolutely beautiful!

Hey - need some Hamilton Standard logos for that prop? (not sure the P-47 had Ham Std's or not...) And P&W logo? (again, not sure if it ran P&W or not) Images link to hi-res gif files.

Sorry Voss - AT&T was acting freaky and apparently lost the uploads. I logged in again and not a trace so pushed em up again. Seems to work now.

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Melvil · « **Reply #67 on:** February 18, 2001, 09:36:00 PM »

Hey. Iv'e been busy, so I am going to stop working on my wrench and leave it how it is. Theres alot of small flaws, and things that I would normmaly do, but I need to be doing other stuff...

Anyways, as if anyone cares, here it is.

-Melvil

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Voss · « **Reply #68 on:** February 18, 2001, 11:55:00 PM »

Tyro48: After you invest all of this artistic work can it be skinned to the AH planes?

That's up to HTC, Tyro. Yes, anything we make could be skinned to the planes, though the image palettes would probably have to be optimized. I have only toyed around with this in air sims. I did do a lot of work on Quake* skins and even re-textured a few entire levels (mostly deathmatch stuff).

Tyro48: $795 for Rhino sweet jesus!

You think that's bad check out 3DS sometime.

Sancho: I'm just trying to make the best P-47 I can make though; this isn't necessarily for a game. I don't like playing with paint and glue to make real models, so I do it on my computer.

I hear you, Brother.

PakRat: Images link to hi-res gif files.

Bummer, I get a 404 Error on those links and I wanted a look.

Melvil: Anyways, as if anyone cares, here it is.

I care.

Blender looks very capable. I wish you could stay to tell us more!

Thanks for what you did offer, though. It is obvious to me that Blender is fully capable of creating excellent skins.
I would like to know if it can do shadows and other things, though. I'll look into it more. Thanks!

Voss

* We're kind of backwards here in Arkansas. We still play Quake. Best FPS ever written in my opinion. (Classic Quake that is.) I still get a good 300 frags a day to keep up.

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Sundog · « **Reply #69 on:** February 19, 2001, 12:04:00 AM »

Here is another link you guys may be interested in. I really enjoy it, and they generally have a lot of good hints/tips/ etc in it. It always has a CD with Demos/Freeware/Tutorials/Textures, etc.

3D World

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'Criticism is always easier then craftmanship.'

Sancho · « **Reply #70 on:** February 19, 2001, 03:24:00 AM »

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Originally posted by PakRat:
Hey - need some Hamilton Standard logos for that prop? (not sure the P-47 had Ham Std's or not...) And P&W logo? (again, not sure if it ran P&W or not) Images link to hi-res gif files.

Yes the jug used Hamilton Standard Hydromatic Propellers... also Curtiss Electric on earlier models. Mine is showing the Hamilton Standard model.

And the engine of the P-47 is the Pratt & Whitney R-2800. The logo you posted goes on the front side of the reduction gear casing just under the propeller shaft. It is visible from the outside of the plane.

Thanks for posting these. I will use them both!! Where'd you get these?

Sancho · « **Reply #71 on:** February 19, 2001, 04:50:00 AM »

Here's a pic of the prop with Hamilton Standard logo applied. Click the pic for larger view.

<edit> Oops! Just realized that the logo goes lengthwise along the prop. I had it too big and place perpendicular to the prop blade. Was an easy fix in POV

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PakRat · « **Reply #72 on:** February 19, 2001, 11:07:00 AM »

Glad to help out! That P-47 is looking good too! Don't know how detailed you want to get, but there is also yellow stencil lettering on the blade root with mil specs, S/N, etc. I don't have any close-up pictures or I could give you the details.

I made the Hamilton Standard and Pratt & Whitney logos up a while back for a guy that does t-shirts and such. Got a bunch of different oval designs of AT-6's, B-17's, etc. too. The originals are in CorelDRAW and I just exported to hi-res gif format for posting.

Did a number of other designs for him too. The ones I really like are HERE. It's all flat 2-D art, but it was fun to do. Copied from old 20's and 30's luggage tags.

My claim to graphics fame. Actually did the whole website for this guy while in graduate school.

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Sancho · « **Reply #73 on:** February 19, 2001, 11:38:00 AM »

Nice stuff!! Did you do the MIDI too??

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PakRat · « **Reply #74 on:** February 19, 2001, 11:50:00 AM »

More category logos:

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