F4U-4 vs P-38L

[Bronk]

HNX..THATS WHATR I MEANT
 

No that was your problem.. you been keeping them in your 6-9 line all this time.

[CAP1]

No that was your problem.. you been keeping them in your 6-9 line all this time.

mayhaps that IS my problem........

[OOZ662]

Was trying to get multiple planes in one image for comparison, since HTC's images scale varies.

Derp, this is why you shouldn't post when you're almost asleep. I'd entirely forgotten they added the ability to compare multiple planes.

[bravoa8]

You don't seem very successful in killing P-38s in your Spitfire.


ack-ack

You haven't even seen me in a Spitfire. I haven't even seen you ingame.

[OOZ662]

You haven't even seen me in a Spitfire. I haven't even seen you ingame.

Scores page. You can look up peoples stats in an aircraft versus an aircraft.

[bravoa8]

Scores page. You can look up peoples stats in an aircraft versus an aircraft.

Oh... well maybe not so much on P-38's but, their easy targets most of the time.

[Widewing]

At least the 190A-8 can run away... if he's on the deck.

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Only if the 190 has a big E advantage when he decides to run. Why? Because, the Spit16 accelerates so much faster that it may run down the 190 before he can begin to pull away with his minor speed advantage. Think of it as two cars in a drag race. Often, the car with lower ET was a bit slower at the end of the quarter mile.


My regards,

Widewing

[Ack-Ack]

Oh... well maybe not so much on P-38's but, their easy targets most of the time.

Except for you it seems.


ack-ack

[bravoa8]

Except for you it seems.


ack-ack

Yep.

[CAP1]

Oh... well maybe not so much on P-38's but, their easy targets most of the time.

i shouldn't go here, but i will now.



if you're not successful killing p38's, how can you call em easy targets'?

[Kazaa]

Because they are the size of a barn door?

[SAJ73]

I've been killed alot by the aces of 38's while flying my F4U-4 over the time, but that's generally because I've been wasting my E by pulling too hard on the stick not knowing my plane well enough..
As I learned to manage my E better and ease down the moves I find the 38's alot easier to kill. And once u get on top of them they really have no place to go..

And I love to put a lead fire on them as they turn, they make such huge targets in the sky that makes them almost impossible to miss..  
And even if they can take a beating with 2 engines and all, when u see the hits all over that large wingspan u just hold the fire for a fraction longer and u know their tail is gone.  

[SAJ73]

(this might not be public yet, I can't remember) but Spatula is working on an updated version....... so if it isn't out yet, I am sure it will be and will be up to date....

edit: I did not post "without a mistake from either side"........

it really does not matter looking at it on paper........ anyhow what is a mere 200 to 600 ft of climb? or 25 mph faster.or 1.2 sec degree roll rate  ( <---exageration guessing, without looking it all up)........ if a top tier 38 flyer flys his plane to its strengths, and the same F4U experienced flyer does the same......it will come down to the one who screws up 1st.... usually the one who gives in to the other....... thats with both of them starting out at a max speed co-alt merge.....

if both pilots are equally competent in their respective cartoon airplanes, it will come down to who screws the pooch 1st......

classic example using to average/better than avg pilots: kappa P38L vs TC F4U(although it was a D model ) 2 to 4 fights.....we broke about even....... (sidenote: not in a set environment duel, was in the old MA, before the split )

I got to add this: this happened before some players started claiming HTC tweaked the F4U to have UBERFLAPS (<---that is only a mythical misbelief )

but have seen many instances of the same outcome above

I doubt there is 15 (maybe 20) players tops that can hang on their prop at 60 kias in the F4U-4(any F4U series )

and possibly nearly the same that are capable to do it in a P38 series...... most will stall out and go into a spin whether flat, inverted or tail type spin......

but again I am only going from my experience of what I have seen or been in.....

It is quite easy to let the F4U-4 hang by the prop at 60mph, go full on the flaps slow the plane down, pull nose slightly up as u trottle back on full and then give it some right rudder and ailerons while u balance it. Can fly that way as long as u like if u got a steady hand on ur stick. 

[Noah17]

There's no question the F4U-4 is easily better than any P-38.

[Anaxogoras]

Only if the 190 has a big E advantage when he decides to run. Why? Because, the Spit16 accelerates so much faster that it may run down the 190 before he can begin to pull away with his minor speed advantage. Think of it as two cars in a drag race. Often, the car with lower ET was a bit slower at the end of the quarter mile.


My regards,

Widewing

There's other possibilities... For instance, the two aircraft might be initially heading in opposite directions.  If there's altitude below, the 190A-8 has slightly better dive acceleration to 400mph ias and retains dive speed after leveling out better than the XVI.  During a high speed dive, even with the XVI's good roll rate, the 190A-8 still rolls better and can create separation with unpredictable course changes.

In other words, if escape is the only thing on your mind, getting away from a XVI in the 190A-8 isn't too difficult, but you'll have to give up that altitude you spent half a day earning.