Author Topic: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.  (Read 3359 times)

Offline PFactorDave

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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2009, 01:19:26 PM »
in a planet where a customer paying 15$ per month as the same amount of service of a customer paying 15$ per month.

ps I posted a message just after the math flawed one :)

I didn't know that certain people didn't have access to ALL of the same planes as everyone else.  You should call and complain if all you can fly are the short range aircraft.  :neener:

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Offline VonMessa

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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2009, 01:30:15 PM »
in a planet where a customer paying 15$ per month as the same amount of service of a customer paying 15$ per month.

ps I posted a message just after the math flawed one :)

Because you pay the same as others, your fuel tank should hold the same amount ?

25% of 100 = 25

25% of 184 = 46

No flaw there.

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Offline Yossarian

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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2009, 01:30:45 PM »
You need to realize that the world of AH in the MAs are scaled down! HTC intended for this to be like this. Why did they do this? To confine the fights to nearby bases so people of all backgrounds can find a fight close by. With fights close by, more people are more happy because they dont have to wait so long to climb to altitude and fly for 15+ minutes just to get there.

If you make fuel burn set to normal, youre just going to find more hording spits, lgays, and typhies swarming around the maps. There is already enough of these planes in the cartoon air as it is. The average distance between bases are roughly 25 miles apart. If you want it more realistic, then move the bases further apart to simulate longer flight time in WW2. Then you can have your realism.

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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2009, 01:37:44 PM »
Because you pay the same as others, your fuel tank should hold the same amount ?

25% of 100 = 25

25% of 184 = 46

No flaw there.



If you registered your BBS account when starting AH in 2007 I guess you're too n00b to remember what happened after a  fuel porkage to 25%.


Still 25% in a yak/typhoon  make you just take off ... (remember I pay the same amount as the other) when 46 make you combat ready.

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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2009, 01:41:30 PM »
Read the thread guys.  Straffo was talking about available fuel quantities when fuel is porked.

This is yet another demonstration of the importance of asking for clarification before you assume someone is irrational.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2009, 01:43:03 PM by Anaxogoras »
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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2009, 01:51:36 PM »
If the LA 7 has a fuel capacity of 100 gallons, 25% = 25 gallons

If the P51D has a capacity of 184 gallon, 25% = 46 gallons


The point under consideration is.......

 if there were 71 gallons available between 2 planes how would it be shared?

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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2009, 01:59:51 PM »
The point under consideration is.......

 if there were 71 gallons available between 2 planes how would it be shared?



Fill up my plane first and whatever is left the other Pigs can have?  :uhoh

Seriously, I understand the two sides on this one, and both are valid arguments.
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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2009, 02:01:50 PM »
If you registered your BBS account when starting AH in 2007 I guess you're too n00b to remember what happened after a  fuel porkage to 25%.


Still 25% in a yak/typhoon  make you just take off ... (remember I pay the same amount as the other) when 46 make you combat ready.

Reaching hard to justify your position, eh?  

Insulting me will not change the facts either, although it does serve as a source of amusement.

Using an example of "the way things used to be" as an example to change things to the way you want them to be is hardly a good argument.

If it makes you feel better, I do not remember what happened after a fuel porkage to 25%, and neither do I have to worry about it as it is a non-factor now.

 If you wish, I can also build a crucifix for you to nail me to (but you will need to supply the n00b sign for my forehead) but it still will not change the fact that a 25% fuel loadout for 2 aircraft with different fuel capacities will result in different amounts of fuel.  One does not need to be a non-n00b, or even play this game at all to do the math.  

Regardless of how you feel, I doubt the HiTech will change the fuel capacities of different planes to all be the same.  

Perhaps we can model all of the planes to use the same amount of fuel as well, regardless of engine size.

In fact, if we are requesting fantasy items for our planes, I would like the taters on my 109 K4 to fly straight and level for at least as far as the LA's guns do   :aok
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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2009, 02:03:55 PM »
This thread is gonig downhill quickly.
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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2009, 02:07:29 PM »
This thread is gonig downhill quickly.

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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2009, 02:12:02 PM »
Read the thread guys.  Straffo was talking about available fuel quantities when fuel is porked.

This is yet another demonstration of the importance of asking for clarification before you assume someone is irrational.

If the fuel is porked to 25% and that's not enough for you to take off with, then get another plane, or is that being irrational too?  There is the choice to use another plane, switch sides, etc.  No one is ever deprived from taking a certain plane.  What has happened is that a certain plane can't be used at a certain field.  One could go so far to say "defend the base better and don't let the fuel be porked"

If you have a house party and decide to go to bed for the night, are you depriving your guests of the right to party?  No, you are depriving them of partying at your house any more that evening.
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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2009, 02:14:36 PM »
personally, I am in favour of the x1 FBM. Give the bases an average increase in seperation of about 20 miles or so. Theres way too much  - up,fly for 4 mins,ram or ho,then rtb if you manage to bag a couple of kills. Maybe there will be a bit more care taken about your cartoon life if a sortie has to last more than half an hour.As for ride choices, I'm all for defending more bases from a hypothetical increase in la's and spits, as for the pony maybe the extra weight will slow em down, really dislike runstangs.

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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2009, 02:22:42 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2009, 02:39:04 PM »
You both need to tone the rhetoric down.
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Re: Normal fuel burn rate in the main arenas please.
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2009, 02:51:31 PM »
You both need to tone the rhetoric down.

Even if it is epistemic rhetoric?

I firmly believe that discourse creates knowledge   :D

It would be quite boring if we all agreed.
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