how did the f4u have such a low CD,0

[bolillo_loco]

hey, a f4u-1 was they typical corair. but if you guy want to model a -4 go ahead. it was a ww2 plane. but this -4b stuff is too much. you guys will do what you want to so go ahead. corairs were the best and model the 38 to its worst performance. hey aces high is just another inaccurate sim. god what kills me about corsairs is 99% of you didnt even go thru paris island!

[bolillo_loco]

oh and by the way, the -4 didnt turn for squat. the spoiler destroyed its turning ability. when are you guys going to realize this? hey avoid the truth make the planes how ever you want! I think its time to wait for another sim. you boys are no better than wurger at eaw. he figured out all kinds of stuff with his matamatics, but it didnt jive with real figures.

[SKurj]

bolillo  whats all this "you" crap...

We are just players who have the ability to voice our thoughts and impressions of what we'd like to see.

Inaccurate sim....  NO Accurate arena sim will ever be financially successful.  oh and none have to date btw.  How accurate can any sim be that has a "main arena"?  bolillo once the planeset gets filled out to the point of historically accurate scenarios becoming possible, and a large enough playerbase to support an AvA or Historical arena, i urge you to come check it out.

H2H (up to 8 ppl) is always free, and there are usually games to be found.  2 weeks free in the MA no strings attached and NO bill will be sent to you.  Quit sittin on the fence...

The MA only requires balanced planesets (NO IF's or BUT's or AND's) accuracy means little.  Library ww2 aviation experts will never be any more than that, Great interpreters of someone elses interpretations/impressions.

  Aces has the ability to surpass all others in the HA and scenarios.  AH is in its infancy, i can't wait for the future.. damn pc entertainment is closest thing to timetravel in existence (forward).

  There is nothing else on the market boxed or otherwise that comes close to AH IMO.  bolillo you likely must be sad that there is nothing accurate enough for you in existence.

bah errrm was that a rant...
now where did i put my shrink's business card....


AKSKurj
(didn't mean to offend anyone..)

[funked]

This is too funny.  

[Pongo]

I was starting to wonder if it was another one of your alliases Funked....
Did you go through paris island? how did your corsair turn?

[Pongo]

 

Originally posted by F4UDOA:
Grunhurz,

It helps if you read the thread instead of just skimming the topics.

I said

 I don't believe anyone is screaming for it either. However if you read the production numbers from Vought it is clear that 297 F4U-4C's were completed by wars end.

BTW. Just because an A/C saw 5 minutes of combat in WW2 does not make it a production A/C.
The Hitler youth saw combat in WW2, and it didn't make them soldiers.  

On the theory that no thread is so good that it cant go off topic...
Do you know how well the 9th SS fought in Normandy I cant think of a single allied unit of any nationality that fought so well.....Mostly Hitler Youth...Its worth looking into.

[Zigrat]

jeeezus how did you guys twist my thread so


in the past i had been lead to believe that geman engineering was the best, but im starting to doubt that  

guess which airplane is a) the fastest and b) one of the most inefficient

you guessed right   but GOD you would think they could have optimized it aerodynamically just a LITTLE

oh well good thing they didnt cuz mabye more p51 pilots would have died

[funked]

LOL PONGO  

[F4UDOA]

Bolillo_loco,

1. I don't want the cannon F4U-4 in AH. It won't need to be. It will be the fastest bird up until 25K, climb at 4,000FPM and turn better than the P-51,P-47,P-38 or any FW190A/D orBF109G10. While diving better and retaining E better than the F4U-1.

2. The F4U-1A was the first to have the spoiler strip on the port wing root. Meaning that all F4U's in AH IE. -1C and -1D are already modeled with it. The F4U-4 was only 224lbs heavier than the -1 empty. But with less drag and 200hp more.

F4U-4= 9,206lbs empty
F4U-1= 8,982lbs empty

3. The F4U-1D(spoiler equipped) from the F4U pilots manual stalls power on clean(no flaps) at 96MPH. Which when multiplied by the square of 3G's give's you the 3G accelerated stall.

           1G stall   3G stall
F4U-1D=    96MPH     166.27MPH
P-51D =   100MPH     173.20MPH
FW-190A5= 110MPH     190.52MPH
FW-190D9= 116MPH     200.91MPH

4. I also did not go to Paris Island. I went to Lackland Air Force base San Antonio Texas for Basic training in 1986. I have no idea what difference that makes in this conversation?

Wells,

Do you have a copy of the F4U-4 pilots manual?

[F4UDOA]

BTW,

Another piece of F4U-4 trivia.
Did you know that the -4 had a pilots seat that raised the legs of the pilot to reduce the effects of G-LOC?

From the Vought web page.

 

Other changes included in the XF4U-4 were the raising of the cockpit deck to raise the pilot's legs to decrease the effect of acceleration during combat manueuvers, the repositioning of  instruments and controls, the use of a new bubble canopy and the addition of a new armor-plated seat that provided more pilot protection

Later

[LLv34_Snefens]

Bollilo, you need to remember how the things work with AH. It's not a game abandoned by the developers, where people have opened the code and are now adding their own planes and FM like you mention with EAW.
It is a game that is continuosly being worked on (and not only adding more planes) by the staff of HTC.

The people in this thread have nothing to do with making of the FM for any of the planes in Aces High. Neither are they decieding what planes are to be modelled next.
Looking through posts on this forum you will see people crying about how this is wrong and why we don't have that model of one of the current planes that had this and that thingie, requests for planes they are hoping to be added or wild speculations of what planes will be the next. The chance of any of them being heard or guesses right are very small.

Go to the hangar in the game. Look through the list. Thats the planes we have. Besides that HTC have told that the Hellcat and the Avenger are currently under development (screenshots posted). This is all that we know. What the next plane besides those will be is anyone's guess. (I myself doubt it will be a F4U-4 tho, but thats just my guess)

Man I can't wait till IL-2 comes out. No P-51, P-47, P-38 and F4U that will lead to screaming and shouting and threads like this, but instead russian planes that they know diddelisquat about. ahhh  

[This message has been edited by LLv34_Snefens (edited 12-12-2000).]

[F4UDOA]

I think the -4 would only be added as a possible "Perk".

[Vermillion]

F4UDOA, when in '86 where you there?

I was in basic at Lackland in June-July of '86, in the 01st training squadron.

You?

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[F4UDOA]

Verm,

I was there in April/May. Then off to Biloxi Miss. for the next year for Avionics Navigation and Radar. Better known as "Av Nav".

Trying to Remember my Squad designation. Gotta find my yearbook and look it up.
Ahh the good old day's.

[bolillo_loco]

I am curious why then did the corsair fall last in turn ability when it had the spoiler in place? I think it is idiotic on my part to try to reason so I will just bug out.