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Offline gyrene81

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Re: auto eject
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2010, 09:01:30 AM »
Personally, if they're playing on bad connections...they got no business playing...especially if they know it. Having a ping rate in the triple digits when you get to the online connections screen is a good indicator that you have a bad connection to the servers and you either need to try and fix it or do something else. It's taking responsibility and being considerate of the other hundred or so people on the servers.

I've seen people get banned and their accounts deleted for stupidity...what would it hurt to put a limitation on connection speeds...that puts the responsibility in the hands of the people who want are stupid enough to download torrents or stream music/videos on their slow dsl or dial-up connections while trying to play AH.
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Re: auto eject
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2010, 09:06:27 AM »
Having a ping rate in the triple digits when you get to the online connections screen is a good indicator that you have a bad connection to the servers

No, it isn't. Hundreds of players, if not thousands, are playing perfectly fine with a "triple-digit" connction. For example all of us European players, myself included :)
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Re: auto eject
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2010, 09:18:52 AM »
No, it isn't. Hundreds of players, if not thousands, are playing perfectly fine with a "triple-digit" connction. For example all of us European players, myself included :)
And you're laggy, just not as laggy...having a ping rate in the low to mid hundreds isn't horrible but get to 200+ and people are going to see some slight anomalies while you're in their viewing range...push it to 400+ and the warping gets out of hand...I've had my connection switch to udp then disco with a ping rate of 175 and my normal rate is 67. If you live in the backwoods where plaid flannel is the current fashion, it's time to move someplace where you can catch up with the rest of us in the 21st century.
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Re: auto eject
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2010, 09:31:25 AM »
I've had my connection switch to udp then disco with a ping rate of 175 and my normal rate is 67.

My ping is ~160... and my connection is stable. That's why you can't use "connection speed" (ping time) as a guide to connection quality in such a simple way.
When your ping suddenly goes from 67 to 175 it's indicating some major trouble, but the warping and loss of connection is not a result of a three-digit ping time, nor does such a ping alone tell us anything about connection stability.

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1) Your ping is some what irrelevant to the servers. If it is below 300ms, then you are golden. I see complaints from people complaining about their ping going from 10 to 60. To Aces High, you have the same connection at those rates. 
However, the best connection is one that is steady without wide swings in the packet latencies.
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Re: auto eject
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2010, 10:02:55 AM »
And you're laggy, just not as laggy...having a ping rate in the low to mid hundreds isn't horrible but get to 200+ and people are going to see some slight anomalies while you're in their viewing range...push it to 400+ and the warping gets out of hand...I've had my connection switch to udp then disco with a ping rate of 175 and my normal rate is 67. If you live in the backwoods where plaid flannel is the current fashion, it's time to move someplace where you can catch up with the rest of us in the 21st century.

As stated above, anything below 300ms is fine as long as your netstat is plain. If you start warping when your ping rise to 175 from 70, it means you have packets lost somewhere (that why it switch to TCP).

btw, it probably just impossible to have "2-digits" ping from Europe to USA server.
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Re: auto eject
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2010, 10:41:46 AM »
i was flying with BiPoLaR when this happened, and it was quite ridiculous....the guy was waaaaay past him and suddenly BiP caught fire and went down.  not really fair to the guy that just lost 200 perkies to a bad connection......just my $0.02
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Re: auto eject
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2010, 11:43:26 AM »
Agree.  It's time for a cutoff HTC.  Make it 500ms if you want, that's a lot, but still not as bad as some of these guys.  I think the main offenders are guys on satellite internet, the lag time on that is horrible.  Now someone will come in here with a bleeding heart about how some guys can't help it blah blah blah....  Quite frankly I don't give a rats ass.  You're laggy because you have satellite?  So what, get cable or DSL.  Can't get cable or DSL because you live in the boonies?  So what, it's not my fault you chose to live out there, get a netzero account and fly on dialup.  Laggy because your computer is too full of spyware from downloading pr0n and you're not bright enough to fix it?  Take it to geek squad or go buy another.

I'm typing this from a Dell Dimension 4550, it's older than some of the squeakers that play this game and you could prolly find a used one for $50 bucks, it runs the game just fine.  I played for years on Dialup with no problems, a netzero account is $10 bucks a month.  You will ping between 200 and 300 which is getting up there, but at least you'll be stable and in the same time zone as your enemy when you kill them.  There is no excuse for these guys other than they are too lazy to make some changes.

The old it's broke, i'm broke, not my fault lines are getting tired, please HTC enter the 21st century and set up some sort of a ping cap at least.



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Re: auto eject
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2010, 06:18:54 PM »
the bigger double edged sword to deal with is asking people to choose between streaming porn to there comps 24 hours a day or play a fun sim.




aaaaaaaaand if my computer allows it, play AH..........
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Re: auto eject
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2010, 06:29:12 PM »
choose between streaming porn to there comps 24 hours a day or play a fun sim.

Fortunately, I can do both without any warping.

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Re: auto eject
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2010, 06:32:43 PM »
It's been asked for before.
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Re: auto eject
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2010, 08:29:17 PM »
Guys there IS a cutoff, haven't you ever seen anyone disco? What do you think a Disco is? Get a bad enough connection, lose enough packets, and AH will indeed dump you.

Now, you can try to ask for that limit, wherever it is set to be lowered.
But I wouldn't hold my breath.