20mm for F6F

[J_A_B]

Since we are getting the F6F-5, will it have the option to replace two of the .50's with 20mm?  

My guess is it will.

First of all, several other planes are modeled with rare arament options.

Second, the F6F-5 was built with the 20mm's in mind.  There was nothing stopping the Navy from using them more; the planes required no special modification to use them.  It just worked out that they weren't used much.  They were used though, mostly on night fighters but on some day fighters, as well.

Third, they wouldn't be a "super weapon"   It would decrease the F6F's ammo load, add weight (thus degrading performance,), and be harder to aim.  Fair tradeoffs.

I am also guessing that HTC has already decided on whether it will have this option or not--as stated, theyt are already working on the F6F.  Maybe one of the aircraft programmers could answer this for us.

J_A_B

[RAM]

Put that big radar in left wing, model its weight, model its drag, and fly the F6F only by night. Then, yes, get 20mm with the F6F5.

IF not, sorry but no 20mm. We LW people have to hear all the times we yell for MG removing option in 190s that as it wasnt a standard in LW to remove MGs from 190As, we can't do it in AH. Nothing stopped LW people to erase those MGs, isnt it?. But still we can't do it in AH.

Same with your F6F. Nothing stopped USN to put 20mm in them, but as they didnt, there is no reason why we must have an option for it.

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[RAM]

And BTW wich rare armament options do you mean?...the only that comes to my mind is the 4x20mm F4U1-C, only 200 built...

[Mitsu]

I don't want F6F 20mm version...
0.50cal is sufficient to fight.

F4U is too.  

-Mitsu

[Soulyss]

screw 20mm cannon
6 .50's is plenty

[eye]

When they bring the f6 here it will be my regular ride.

Please dont leave it a 6 50 cal plane.

The f6 was a 2 cannon ride too. It adds a whole new dimention to the plane.

I flew a 6 50 cal f6 in aw3. Adding  the 2 cannon option adds excitement. For me anyways.

[GRUNHERZ]

Hi

Only the nightfighters had the 20mm as far as I know so I dont think a dayfighter type should have them in the sim, sorry but it just did not happend.

thanks GRUNHERZ

[Fishu]

 

Originally posted by eye:
When they bring the f6 here it will be my regular ride.

Please dont leave it a 6 50 cal plane.

The f6 was a 2 cannon ride too. It adds a whole new dimention to the plane.

I flew a 6 50 cal f6 in aw3. Adding  the 2 cannon option adds excitement. For me anyways.

Yes, and Hispanos for the LW planes would really add another dimension also..

[Karnak]

6 Brownings only.

We aren't getting the night fighter, so lets stick with what it really used.  No 20mm cannon on the F6F-5, if we get a radar equipped F6F-5NF, then fine, give it the cannon.

FWIW, the P-51D hits plenty hard with 6 fifties.

Sisu
-Karnak

[MC202]

   Any bets if more 20mm's were used in non-radar mounted F6F-5's than the total build of fully finished "production" Ta152's ?  :-)

   In fact, I feel that the most common set-up of an aircraft should be the one modeled for guns and bombs, for all aircraft. If any "in the field" mods are allowed, then all "in the field" mods should be allowed.

   Too tough to program? Then stick to what was most likley to be used. If you want what was used in historic combat, ie...

"Same with your F6F. Nothing stopped USN to put 20mm in them, but as they didnt, there is no reason why we must have an option for it.

Then only allow the most common set-up. If you want what could have been, ALL bets are off for both sides.

For the Axis, long range bombers, full production of trial run aircraft, and no being out numbered 3 to 1.

For the Allies, B-29's in Europe, use of aircraft in production but not sent overseas into combat (F8 Bearcat, P-51H, P-80, F-7F Tigercat) in '45 as they were not a "must have" as the Axis was down and out and only the day of the end was in question.

MC202
Dino in Reno

[gatt]

Yes, go on with late war plane set and perk projects. Thats what you will get: debates about rare, uber armed or specialized a/c. Ahhh ... very good, and we are still waiting for real and historical kites ...  

[Replicant]

Perk the 20mm's    

Yep, agree entirely Gatt.  A lot of work will be put into the perk planes yet very few people will get to use them.  Hope HTC doesn't use too much time on perk planes when we could have some much needed early planes.

Regards

'Nexx'

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[StSanta]

I don't think we should have a 20mm version of the F6F at all.



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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"

[Vermillion]

Why Santa?

I have seen alot of requests for the armament options for the Nightfighter varients of German Aircraft. For instance the Me110, Ju-88, and others.

So, why not the F6F?

Actually, I am somewhat against it myself, but I am just pointing out that it starts a dangerous precedent by picking and choosing which guns we "like" and which we "don't like".

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Vermillion:
Why Santa?

I have seen alot of requests for the armament options for the Nightfighter varients of German Aircraft. For instance the Me110, Ju-88, and others.

So, why not the F6F?

Because we ask for a Ju88C with the weight of Radar, drag or aerials, and heavier weapons. We dont ask for a Ju88A4 with 4x20mm and 2x30mm. This is what J_A_B suggests, the weapons of a night fighter put on a day fighter. Then I will start asking for a Ju88S1 with 4x20mm and 2x30mm option, not forgetting the schrage music installation. And of course with no Radar weight and no aerial drag.  

I'm all ok with the idea of the F6F5-N. With radar. With drag. With weight. and with 20mm. But not a day fighter with an option VERY rarely (if ever) used operationally.

We asked not so long ago for the option to remove cowl MGs from Fw190A5 and A8. We got the answer that "as it was very rarely done in WWII, you can't do it in Aces High".

So I say...Hispanos in daylight F6F fighter?

As it was very rarely done in WWII, you can't do it in Aces High.

 

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 09-24-2000).]