The C Hog...Why Was It Not Perked?

[brady]

  I never realy flew the C hog much untill a couple days ago and today I got around 100 kills in it, about 70% were GV's.  the reasion I never flew it was I kinda felt it was to UBER, or dweby or what ever. The darn thing is a freaking menance. it is sturdy, relatively fast and packs a MASIVE punch, 1k snap shots man i was LOL all day long. spar and pry my a!!. No praying nessary just spay. get enough led in the air and u are bound to hit somthing and led it has and then some. whean I look at the Perk fighters we have and I look at the C hog it is almost enough to make me laugh the C hog is more deadly than either in my openion.

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[This message has been edited by brady (edited 03-26-2001).]

[Citabria]

perk the n1k2 and f4u1c!!

[Pepe]

I concur with Brady and Citabria. No sense having the Ta152 perked and these two flying steroid drawers unperked.

Cheers,

Pepe

[SOB]

perk every plane!!  especially the dweeb-mobile P38s and 190s!

[F4UDOA]

Perk This

[MANDOBLE]

IMO, if something must be perked, this is my list:

1 - La7
2 - Nikki
3 - Spit IX
4 - HogC

Some of you will wonder why is the SpitIX listed here. Well, it is the best turner at any alt, keeps E as a devil, one of the best divers, one of the best, if not the best, zoom climber, rolls nice, one of the best substanied climbers and has hispanos. The only drawback is its slow max speed at level. So it cant flee, from more than one con, but can handle anyone in one-on-one.

About the Ta152, well, in the actual arena I see no reason to have it perked.

[Vermillion]

Of course Mandoble and all other Luftwaffe pilots want the La7 perked.

Its the one thing that can catch the Hunstang (Dora) on the deck as it runs away.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[StSanta]

My list of perk planes:

190D9. Am sick and tired of Hunstangs  .
109G10. Sick and tired of Run-Oh-Nines.
LA-7. Monster plane.
P51D and B. Am sick and tired of runstangs.
F4U-C. Don't need it unperked when we got the D.
Tempest. Performance says it all.
Typhoon. Sick and tired of running tiffies.
YAK - the fast one. It's as good as G10, perk it.
Ostwind. Need more m16's back.
Carriers. Or more precisely, their laser flak  .
Think that's about it.

This would make war more midwar oriented, and those who want to fly their fav ride would have to save up a bit. Make most of them *cheap* perks; expensive enough to hate losing, but not too expensive.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"You filthy piece of distended rectum! DIE allierte schweinhund!"

[StSanta]

Oh incidentally Verm, look at my post  .

And I am as Luftwobbly as they get  .

I posted it seconds after you posted yours, not seeing your reply.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"You filthy piece of distended rectum! DIE allierte schweinhund!"

[Fishu]

I wonder what type of uranium depleted ammo they're using in C hog...
Last time when I ran alot A/G flights, Typhoon couldn't achieve the same as Chog with the Hispanos for some reason.
Maybe game liked to be biased for me over several flights or then theres something funny in the statistics of guns for those two planes.

[Sturm]

LA-7  Only plane that will catch a D-9
N1K   Come on now, was this plane really that good?
F4u4-1c  I am a  newbie and I have a 3+ ratio in this one, something aint right.
D-9 not to sure on this one, speed isn't everything
51-D aye she be fast, but can she take a hit?
Lancaster, perk it, or make it worth more to shoot down.
Macchi 202, come on now 50 value, give it a 75-100 bet ya see more people flying it  

TA-152 unperk it, plus I want to fly it cuz its a 152, just the name, dont care that it sucks just wanna fly it more often.  I think if they gave us the 152 with 3 20mm it wouldn't be as deadly, and no one would be crying about 1 hit kills.  Forgot model number so don't hold me to this one.  
Ar-234, 70 points  


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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron

[SKurj]

Check your stats, unless you are constantly running into Kbman in the MA I doubt any of you have been killed often by it.
The new planeset basically negates any reason to perk the chog.

SKurj

[Sturm]

Wrong, C hog I have been killed the most by in AC.  I have also killed a ton of them as well, because of their high numbers.  Perk it!  

Here are my top 10 stats:  
Model type Killed By Died In
Ostwind        47        11
F4U-1C         42        6
Fw 190D-9      33        44
N1K2           25        15
Panzer IV H    23        17
P-51D          22        22
B-17G          19        4
B-26B          17        18
La-7           15        6
Spitfire Mk IX 14        12


Model type Kills In   Kills Of
Fw 190D-9      45        9
Ostwind        38        13
Bf 109F-4      33        2
P-51D          31        31
Bf 109G-10     23        11
F4U-1D         23        6
Spitfire Mk IX 19        18
Fw 190A-8      19        1
F4U-1C         19        33
M-16           14        9



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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron

[R4M]

IMO the ballance has shifted a bit to the good.

Model-Kills-Deaths-Kills / Deaths + 1
A6M5b 2098 3320 0.6317
Ar234 61 157 0.3861
B-17G 4255 4661 0.9127
B-26B 3414 4495 0.7593
Bf109F-4 724 979 0.7388
Bf109G-10 4660 4335 1.0747
Bf109G-2 966 1066 0.9053
Bf109G-6 1163 1369 0.8489
C-47A 97 1895 0.0512
C.202 243 542 0.4475
C.205 1244 1390 0.8943
Chute 856 0 856.0000
F4U-1C 15389 10609 1.4504
F4U-1D 3205 3878 0.8262
F6F-5 1033 1960 0.5268
Fw190A-5 2084 1691 1.2317
Fw190A-8 1463 1730 0.8452
Fw190D-9 7480 5583 1.3395
Fw190F-8 906 1172 0.7724
Gunner383 206 1.8502
Ju88 878 2336 0.3757
La-5FN 1196 1373 0.8705
La-7 7115 6626 1.0736
Lancaster III 2226 3713 0.5994
M-16 1639 2661 0.6157
M-3 1188 3008 0.3948
N1K2 9464 9196 1.0290
Ostwind 14933 9165 1.6292
P-38L 2898 4477 0.6472
P-47-D25 1102 1029 1.0699
P-47-D30 2318 2888 0.8024
P-51B 1998 2360 0.8463
P-51D 7166 7376 0.9714
Panzer IV H 11266 8558 1.3163
PT Boat 1342 2103 0.6378
SeaFire 1914 2842 0.6732
Ship Gunner 1584 3 396.0000
Spitfire Mk IX 10107 9768 1.0346
SpitV 3155 4442 0.7101
Ta 152H 647 416 1.5516
TBM-3 667 3052 0.2185
Tempest 1272 485 2.6173
Typhoon IB 5428 4588 1.1828
Yak-9T 3173 2862 1.1083
Yak-9U 1988 2023 0.9822


The Chog is still a pain on the prettythang, but much less than before. the Dora is the fourth most used plane closely followed by -in fact, almost tied with- the P51D and La7.

The SpitfireIX is a surprisingly used plane, confirming something I've always said: it is a superb arena plane lacking only in speed.

Personally I would think on giving a very low perk value (3-4 points) to the Chog and let the Nik unperked, based on the arena use of the planes. The N1K2 is the third more used plane, after the Spit and Chog.

 That doesnt mean that I think the Hispano is right and that the N1K is not an ufo   , The Hispano is a gauss particle gun and the N1K2 would have been a nice addition to BattleStar Galactica TV series, back in the 80s  

But my complains about arena unballance now are much much lesser. And as I precognized the dora is not (by far) as much used as the Chog or NiK...and will be less and less used as the time passes by  

Of course, I also would support Santa's idea, but we all know what would happen in AH if the P51s get perked, so that wont happen  


[This message has been edited by R4M (edited 03-26-2001).]

[R4M]

BTW when the B17 has a better K/D than the Dhog, its time to think about tuning those lasers and making them something closer to "realistic" -as hard as it may sound   -.

IMO  

And by heaven's sake, perk the Ostwind. really, I mean it, perk the thing if the damage model has no solution. As it is, you can't kill that gun with anything but hispanos -even when even 7.92mm should rip that gun crew apart-.

Ostwind is a terror. Please fix its damage model or put it as a perk vehicle.


[This message has been edited by R4M (edited 03-26-2001).]