Sherman VC firefly vs. M4A3 (75mm)

[Masherbrum]

It will be like a slow T-34/76 with a higher rate of fire.  How do you feel in a T-34/76 against the Panzer IV H?  Kill/death stats in AH indicate that isn't remotely close to a perfect match.
Read more.  The 17lber on the Firefly made them target #1 for German tankers for a reason.

Also, keep in mind that there isn't simply a "88mm tank gun", but multiple versions.  The 17lber on the Firefly and the 7.5cm KwK 42 L/70 on the Panther are superior to the 8.8cm KwK 36 L/56 on the Tiger I, but probably inferior to the 8.8cm KwK 43 L/71 on the Tiger II.

Quoted for truth.   

[Dr_Death8]

Noticed today they posted pics of the M4A3 76MM barrel instead of the 75MM. Does this mean 2 M4A3s or options for the M4A3??? 

[Bronk]

Bronk want E8!!!

[BigKev03]

Bronk want E8!!!

Man yo uaint kidding the "Easy 8" would be a dream come true for shermans.  All we can do is pray!!!!!  But hey the 76mm will work just fine.

BigKev

[THRASH99]

If you count charging 6 shermans in, losing 5 so the last guy could sneak behind the panzer while he was aimed at poor schmuck #5 and shoot it in the engine compartment from behind, sure, then let's say it "fared quite well"....

The 75mm on the sherman won't kill a panzer in a frontal battle. It may not even damage it in a side battle. It will be one step above an M8 and one step below a T34 (without HVAP) in terms of hitting power.

I'll just compare the new sherman to an LVTA4 (but with AP rounds)

[Guppy35]

Noticed today they posted pics of the M4A3 76MM barrel instead of the 75MM. Does this mean 2 M4A3s or options for the M4A3??? 

Different turret on the M4A3(76)  2 different Shermans

[GtoRA2]

The images they showed of the M4A3 (76) are not correct.  The lower hull is an early Hull, with the driver and co driver hatch hood things. All the version that got the 76MM turret had the later hull with improved hatches.

 

Also the sprockets seem to big and the tools are in the wrong places.

[Waffle]

We're going to change the hull on the 76mm to a later production wet version with the 47 degree front and large hatches.

[ReDeViL2]

It will be like a slow T-34/76 with a higher rate of fire.  How do you feel in a T-34/76 against the Panzer IV H?  Kill/death stats in AH indicate that isn't remotely close to a perfect match.
Read more.  The 17lber on the Firefly made them target #1 for German tankers for a reason.

Also, keep in mind that there isn't simply a "88mm tank gun", but multiple versions.  The 17lber on the Firefly and the 7.5cm KwK 42 L/70 on the Panther are superior to the 8.8cm KwK 36 L/56 on the Tiger I, but probably inferior to the 8.8cm KwK 43 L/71 on the Tiger II.

Thanks for the correction...while I am more than aware of the multiple Versions of the 88mm Gun including the monster 88 built into the Elefant Tank Destroyer, I was simply stating that while 1 shot from the 17lb WOULD disable a Tiger/Panther, etc...the 88 mm (all Variants) turned Allied Tanks into Funeral Pyres.  But I do agree with you bud.   

[Bronk]

We're going to change the hull on the 76mm to a later production wet version with the 47 degree front and large hatches.

E8 E8 E8

[1carbine]

E8 E8 E8

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[321BAR]

If you count charging 6 shermans in, losing 5 so the last guy could sneak behind the panzer while he was aimed at poor schmuck #5 and shoot it in the engine compartment from behind, sure, then let's say it "fared quite well"....

The 75mm on the sherman won't kill a panzer in a frontal battle. It may not even damage it in a side battle. It will be one step above an M8 and one step below a T34 (without HVAP) in terms of hitting power.

where did you hear this? all i hear is that the M4A3 75mm was an equal to the Pnzr IV models of the desert warfare in africa... and what you just stated is what i heard about the PnzrVI aka tiger

[GtoRA2]

We're going to change the hull on the 76mm to a later production wet version with the 47 degree front and large hatches.

Okay cool.

[Die Hard]

The Panzer IV modeled in AH is the 1944 Ausf. H. It has nearly double the frontal armor thickness of the early Pz IV models the M4 faced in Africa, and the gun is an upgraded long-barreled KwK 40 L/48. The 76mm M4 is a good match for the Pz IV, but the 75 mm will be inferior in firepower.

[1carbine]

We're going to change the hull on the 76mm to a later production wet version with the 47 degree front and large hatches.

What are the advantages/disadvantages of this?