Some days are better then others but tonight was awful

[TnDep]

Before this becomes a ho thread let me say this I personally love the fights to be clean and let acm do the talking.  Most of the time I win and some I lose.  Tonight I met a guy named Jumper and everytime he hoed/rammed you with his hurri 2c.  If you tried to break he'd push his stick down left or right and spray.  This happen on 3 consc. sorties and he hoed/rammed squaddie's as well.  I had to get off to go to bed anyway but it leaves me disguested with the game.  You have so many to put up a good clean fight and some that ruins the game. 

Is it his $15 dollars - Yes

he can do what he wants - I know

Is he and some others destroying the game - Yes

I get my butt handed to me back some a lot in duels.  Tonight me and TJ done some duels in the DA and I lost 90% of them and I love that as it helps me to learn. 


I guess my point in this thread is why do some pay $15 dollars a month to up a plane to ram, then up another plane to ho/ram again.  Is there a point in the game to do this if you have no concept of getting better/improving in the game.  What's the reason if there is no room for improvement why would you even play?

Answer this question only and I'm going to start it off

To make me ask questions - Yes 

[redman555]

 

[kilo2]

Some people play this game to not have to work like a relaxation type thing. Some people it does not matter to them if they ever get better because its just a game. Different strokes for different folks.

[Lusche]

1.) If you repeatedly & frequently die to collisions, check your own flying. And no, this is not a flame, and I'm not being ironic I'm plain serious.

2) Due to the way the collision system works, "ramming" is not that easy. If you simply run into the enemy plane, more often than not it's only you that is taking damage.

oh and 3): Some days are really just awful. That's the way it is, some days you are really out of luck, whatever you do: Be it 3 disco in a row, 3 collisions that just happened,  you run into grizz 3 times at different locations, or 3 times you see your rounds glance off that enemy tank before you die.

[grizz441]

1.) If you repeatedly & frequently die to collisions, check your own flying. And no, this is not a flame, and I'm not being ironic I'm plain serious.

2) Due to the way the collision system works, "ramming" is not that easy. If you simply run into the enemy plane, more often than not it's only you that is taking damage.

+1
There are very few situations where a HO is unavoidable.  Usually, it is a result of not spotting a HO situation soon enough and not taking the steps needed to avoid early enough.  If you can see a HO coming from 2k out in any situation, you should have enough tools in the toolbox to be able to dodge it and set yourself up in a good position.  The only exception to this rule is flaps out on the deck and a guy is coming dead for you.  It's tough to avoid these shots but you could even say that it's your fault for finding yourself on the deck in this spot with cons bearing in.

[shiv]

I think furballing with a Hurri that just turns on your nose and ho's every time should raise the likelihood of a colliison somewhat. no?  Even 1-v-1. 

[doleboy]

Most of the time I win

I want your babies!!!!!!

[uptown]

 


I guess my point in this thread is why do some pay $15 dollars a month to up a plane to ram, then up another plane to ho/ram again.  Is there a point in the game to do this if you have no concept of getting better/improving in the game.  What's the reason if there is no room for improvement why would you even play?



[/quote]I think a lot of this kind of thing comes from guys that just don't want or care to take the time to learn ACMs. And as a result they find themselves being killed by the same guys over and over, they get pissed and do anything and every thing to score a kill on these guys. They get frustrated and do it to piss you off. It's just that simple I think.
If you notice you don't ever seen these types on the boards asking questions, in the training arena, or working with someone in the DA. But they'll be the first to resort to desperate ho shots, rams and accusations of cheating. You can't let these types get to you. They're not going anywhere, sorry to say.
I can tell you one thing for sure though. Next time you own that clown, you'll be loving it. Welcome to the MA 

[TnDep]

good points to all and I see your point uptown....

Lushe let me give this example so maybe you'll understand alittle more about what I mean.  Not every plane is the same and the hurri2c is the plane in question and the pilots mental state.  I was coming down on the hurri from an 8 oclock position to him as he was on a squaddie.  I had about 50mph more speed then him in a mossie, at 1k he breaks left into me and I know he's going to go for the ho so I go nose down to advoid.  He's pulling up on the stick and pulling hard left he starts to fire and all the bullets are going way above me.  At the last second he sees what I'm doing and he pushes hard on the stick downward probably getting a red screen for neg. g's and takes my wing off.  He's intentionally ramming people and yes if I knew he was going to spray and pray I could have added a few other maneuvers to advoid.  Continue later got to work.

[flatiron1]

I would like to hear his side of the story, maybe he was outnumbered, maybe he was doing what he had to do to avoid the pick, maybe he was doing what he had to do to defend the base. Got film?

[thndregg]

I always wondered about the term "destroying the game". This would eventually lead to the game being destroyed, would it not?

[The Fugitive]

good points to all and I see your point uptown....

Lushe let me give this example so maybe you'll understand alittle more about what I mean.  Not every plane is the same and the hurri2c is the plane in question and the pilots mental state.  I was coming down on the hurri from an 8 oclock position to him as he was on a squaddie.  I had about 50mph more speed then him in a mossie, at 1k he breaks left into me and I know he's going to go for the ho so I go nose down to advoid.  He's pulling up on the stick and pulling hard left he starts to fire and all the bullets are going way above me.  At the last second he sees what I'm doing and he pushes hard on the stick downward probably getting a red screen for neg. g's and takes my wing off.  He's intentionally ramming people and yes if I knew he was going to spray and pray I could have added a few other maneuvers to advoid.  Continue later got to work.

While no "uber pilot" myself, why would you continue with your attack if you KNOW he's coming around for the HO? At 1k out I'd have chopped my throttle and done a high yo and dropped back in on him from behind his 3-9 line. You forced a bad situation by continuing your attack in the manner you did. If you were doing the noble thing and saving your buddy, you succeeded, break high after he breaks off your buddy. If you were going balls out for the kill you screwed up and got what you deserved.

This game has turned into a game about score, kills. In the old days when it was "enthusiasts" playing it was all about the fight. You even hint at this in your original post with this line "Most of the time I win and some I lose." To me this comes across as a person whose only concern is to "win". I know you said you look for the fight, and you probably do, but your falling into the same boat of looking for the kill instead of the fight. In the instance you posted you had the upper hand and could have dictated how that fight went, but instead you pushed for the quick kill.

[321BAR]

Fly a zeke corkscrew out of the HO into a sharp 180, and get on the bugger's six. make sure you have 50% fuel or less when doing so

[TnDep]

I guess my point in this thread is why do some pay $15 dollars a month to up a plane to ram, then up another plane to ho/ram again.  Is there a point in the game to do this if you have no concept of getting better/improving in the game.  What's the reason if there is no room for improvement why would you even play?[/b]

Answer this question only and I'm going to start it off

yeah if I were in your zeke bar lol I was in a mossie at the time   

To Fugitive: 

Lets stay on topic..... at the time I felt if I went up he'd had a belly shot on me.  I performed the only maneuver I felt I had to avoid the ho/ram.  I started this thread to get some ideas of what goes through these guys head that ho/ram every sortie nothing else.  If you feel my pilot skills/acm is not up to speed I'll be glad to go to the da and listen to instruction and criticism.  I'm not saying that to be sarcastic I'm always up on learning and getting better.  At 14 months in with no previous experience I don't believe I'm doing to bad, won my first koth a few weeks ago and ranked 9th in the MA overall.  I'm not tooting my own horn but I know the acm maneuvers and what maneuvers I can perform at all times, I might not be as good at the maneuver as some so all instruction is welcome. 

I always wondered about the term "destroying the game". This would eventually lead to the game being destroyed, would it not?

If everyone got pissed at the horrorable flying/hoing/ramming and quit= htc no income=file for bankruptcy=no game=game destroyed..........long term explanation for you- thats what I mean.............again off topic

I would like to hear his side of the story, maybe he was outnumbered, maybe he was doing what he had to do to avoid the pick, maybe he was doing what he had to do to defend the base. Got film?

No I don't flatiron I don't auto record should I guess.  It was at his base numbers pretty even and 1 time we were 1v1 and he done the same thing.  This took place over about 5 or 6 sorties and I landed 5 kills one time, bat landed 7, most of the squad was in mossie's.  I'm not saying anything bad about him or anybody else just looking for some insight on his thoughts to trying to ram every fight.  But I do see your point about defending the base we weren't even working on the town just a great furball going on oh and a lot of them had more alt then us as they had a cv moving in to help out. 

[ozrocker]

I always wondered about the term "destroying the game". This would eventually lead to the game being destroyed, would it not?

Hmm, I doubt if that's the what would happen,but it still sucks to INtentionally, contINually ram people.