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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2010, 03:23:07 PM »
I always give a Salute to a good and skilful kill or pilot. But there are some who revel in the fact that they get all this bad attention it like they happy they Pi****G in your beer from the other side of the world i can deffently name some like DozyDuck.  He dives down from 25,000 feet and will either vultch you or Boom n Zoom you when you already trying to deal with 3 others from his side  :huh :huh There's as i say no fun and skill in it. And it annoys me that these guys will sweet talk the new players into joining their squad's. And thus the new player that was a good turn fighter is now an excellenty retard cos he now has been shown the easy way to kill and get his or her score's up :(
I am disappointed  by this thus i petition HiTech Creations to start a booming and zoomer arena and they can all go in there and boom an zoom computer controlled aircraft :)    :salute  :salute  :salute All Skilled Turn fighter Pilots In Ace's  :salute :salute  :salute  :salute
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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2010, 03:29:05 PM »
From what I've seen, the grieving process accurately describes the nature of Aces High.

1-Denial- "He can't shoot me down, he is in a (insert plane name here) and he is far too slow."

2-Anger-"HOW DID HE DO THAT? Damn HACKS in this game!"

3-Bargaining- "If you let me find him when I re-up, let me pick him for revenge. Just this once, I promise."

4-Depression- "Damn it! I died again and I had alt this time. I'm not any good..."

5-Acceptance "My head isn't in the game, I'm logging out."
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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2010, 03:34:50 PM »
 Im the 4th kind..the ignorer. If the fight was good I will most always salute. If it was one of the other types of fights I usually just reup.

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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2010, 03:45:53 PM »
I'm not sure where I stand. 

I rarely give the first salute.  Reason is, in the past when I send one, I usually didn't get an acknowledgment or I ended up getting called various school yard names on 200 or by PM.  I always return a salute, win or loose when I see that I received one, but I usually don't send one first unless I know the player. 

I know I shouldn't be that way, but you can only beat a horse so many times.     :D

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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2010, 03:47:10 PM »
Im the 4th kind..the ignorer. If the fight was good I will most always salute. If it was one of the other types of fights I usually just reup.

That's why I didn't salute you when you got me a few times last week.   :lol


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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2010, 03:52:10 PM »
When you got shot down in a way you don't like, which one are you?

examples from one situation:
complainer - All you can do is cherry pick when I'm engaged, you are fighting the wrong way.

excuser - You had a better starting advantage so you didnt really win.

accepter -  Nice shot S! [name].



All three can be also viewed as true statements if they describe what happened.  You forgot about the human nature to deny that what was said was a true statement when one knows they did something wrong.

BTW, without the "you are fighting the wrong way" add on, the first one describes most aces in this game.  What is the point of the post?  I call someone a picker it is not a complain.  It is because he is a picker.  Why do they get so defensive about it?

Here is the right way:

guy engaged ---> Nice pick
picker          ---> Thank you!  Nice explosion.

See?  just as we want the guy to admit a nice shot, it would be nice for a picker to admin that it was a nice pick, instead of whining about how he is not going to fly "my" way  :P
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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2010, 04:13:36 PM »
You're totaly right Ded. If it doesnt cause an drama on ch200 then you are accepting it. One comment can be acceptance. A complaint or excuse will last much longer.


And you're right about all three being true about one situation, that's part of the point of the thread, three ways it could be handled.
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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2010, 04:46:32 PM »
From what I've seen, the grieving process accurately describes the nature of Aces High.

1-Denial- "He can't shoot me down, he is in a (insert plane name here) and he is far too slow."

2-Anger-"HOW DID HE DO THAT? Damn HACKS in this game!"

3-Bargaining- "If you let me find him when I re-up, let me pick him for revenge. Just this once, I promise."

4-Depression- "Damn it! I died again and I had alt this time. I'm not any good..."

5-Acceptance "My head isn't in the game, I'm logging out."

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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2010, 04:47:30 PM »
3)Accept whatever happened and give some fun to the player who killed you by sending them a salute. You might even find that saluting a person who HO'ed you would result in them saying 'Nah, I had to ho, nice flying' or some such. It doesnt have to be all roses and kisses tea party land, just acknowledge the event and move on. Sometimes you wont feel the need to salute a person but with acceptance it is easy to say nothing at all.
 Saying nothign at all has a far greater possitive impact on the arena than complaining or making excuses. With acceptance can come humour, from almost any situation. With acceptance, the spitefull rivalries of complaint and excuse become respectfull rivalries with far more to gain in feelings of accomplishment or loss. Acceptance does not mean taking it lying down. It means not wasting time trying to change the past.







What is your definition of a positive impact?   Skyrock said if someone had not called him out about being a picktard  he would still be a picktard.   So for him its what gave him the drive to become one of the best dogfighters in the game.

I have in game experiences that are the same way. Complaint can be empowering.   So to answer your question i encourage complaint and i complain often.

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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2010, 11:17:42 PM »
Sonic's post is a perfect example of "typical" AH arena mentality. Regardless of how fundamentally retarded he's going to appear, he spends x amount of time typing out a response that illustrates his cranial inadequacy for all who read it.

No one said you should not express your displeasure at a personally defined act of "lame behavior", however, the message Bagrat is passing on is that Aces High is just a game and no amount of time wasted typing ridiculous diatribes that flash across the text buffer does anything more than illustrate a persons under developed cranium for all to see. It is a game and not one person playing it can remember a time when personally defined "lame behavior" did not occur within the environment of the game. Nor can they remember a time when someone did not visually express their displeasure in the form of text buffer rants within the game. What is oft forgotten in the full cycle of a single day, is that not one single event in Aces High is going to make a difference to anyone in or out of the game whose IQ is higher than their shoe size.

Your post proves my point.  You just used what you claim you shouldn't, to make your point. (a ridiculous diatribe ) Then you try to reframe what I said.

Holmes took you to the wood shed, you should have known better, but at least I don't have to do it.

I never said type ditribes across the screen. Nice try at a reframe.

We are in agreement >No one said you should not express your displeasure at a personally defined act of "lame behavior".

Here is where your screed falls short.

the message Bagrat( I think you mean Batfink ) is passing on is that Aces High is just a game

We agree on the first part.



and no amount of time wasted typing ridiculous diatribes that flash across the text buffer does anything more than illustrate a persons under developed cranium for all to see.

Do you realize you just defined yourself.......  You must not have a IQ higher than your shoe size. ( see your diatribe above )


It is a game and not one person playing it can remember a time when personally defined "lame behavior" did not occur within the environment of the game. Nor can they remember a time when someone did not visually express their displeasure in the form of text buffer rants within the game. What is oft forgotten in the full cycle of a single day, is that not one single event in Aces High is going to make a difference to anyone in or out of the game whose IQ is higher than their shoe size.
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This is what happens when you make sloppy over-generalizations. ( NOT ONE PERSON ) that does include you ya know. Oh wait here is the hidden disclaimer. I'm not one of those people because I can identify what the rest of you forget in the cycle of a singe day.

is that not one single event in Aces High is going to make a difference to anyone in or out of the game whose IQ is higher than their shoe size.

Of course It won't make any difference  to someone whose IQ is higher than there shoe size. AND??????? That is a truthful statement. So what?

Not everyone playing the game has a low IQ that means that I will get through to few by>  express your displeasure at a personally defined act of "lame behavior".

I would still be hoing if someone had not typed on the text buffer that it was frowned upon. 

I would still be a picktard if someone hadn't typed on the the text buffer that there are better ways to fly.

I would still be clearing someone 12 o'clock if someone hadn't typed on the text buffer hey please don't do that.

Oh and you missed the point completely. Go read it again it may help.

My point is not about I got shot down in a one vs one. I always <S> the other player in a 1 v 1.

I will not <S> someone that picks the fight or hoes me in the face when it is already 2 or more vs 1.

I will <S> you on your post though it was the poorest diatribe I have ever seen.  Next time keep within the frame of the argument.





 


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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2010, 12:44:55 AM »
I do complain sometimes when I get shot usually when I get egged or a spixteen kills me it kinda annoys me but, I try to keep my mouth shut.

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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #71 on: June 29, 2010, 01:13:48 AM »
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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2010, 01:39:15 AM »
and your reply is a perfect example of a typical AH forum mentality, which dictates that not only do you have to make your point, but you feel obliged to chuck in an ad-hominem attack.

see how I managed to make my point there without feeling the need to personally insult you?

You're mean.
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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2010, 08:33:15 AM »
You're totaly right Ded. If it doesnt cause an drama on ch200 then you are accepting it. One comment can be acceptance. A complaint or excuse will last much longer.


And you're right about all three being true about one situation, that's part of the point of the thread, three ways it could be handled.

You also left out the part where it is just fun to poke the other guy a little.  Stang for example likes being poked.  Literaly  :O
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Re: complain, excuse or accept
« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2010, 08:48:17 AM »
Option #4-EXPLAIN-"I did this and he did this. Next time I will do this when does this, and the bastage will die." Re-up and make it so.




When you got shot down in a way you don't like, which one are you?

examples from one situation:
complainer - All you can do is cherry pick when I'm engaged, you are fighting the wrong way.

excuser - You had a better starting advantage so you didnt really win.

accepter -  Nice shot S! [name].


1)Human nature strangely is programed to continue doing what is being complained about the more it is complained about. So if we complain surely all we will do is encourage the enemy to kill us that way again. Complainers are usualy losing their own fights before they even start through looking for ways to claim disadvantage. It's easy to wind up someone who complains at you, it's not even a challenge infact. Complaining has always been a failed enterprise in large societies of different minds.

2)Excuse the kill, find a reason why it was not fair or it was not a true test of our defeated self. All this does is generally makes yourself feel sheepish and feel a need to keep talking. You can recognise an excuser a mile away as 20 minutes after the fight they will still be typing detailed flight AARs onto ch200 to apparently no one.

3)Accept whatever happened and give some fun to the player who killed you by sending them a salute. You might even find that saluting a person who HO'ed you would result in them saying 'Nah, I had to ho, nice flying' or some such. It doesnt have to be all roses and kisses tea party land, just acknowledge the event and move on. Sometimes you wont feel the need to salute a person but with acceptance it is easy to say nothing at all.
 Saying nothign at all has a far greater possitive impact on the arena than complaining or making excuses. With acceptance can come humour, from almost any situation. With acceptance, the spitefull rivalries of complaint and excuse become respectfull rivalries with far more to gain in feelings of accomplishment or loss. Acceptance does not mean taking it lying down. It means not wasting time trying to change the past.


Obviously most people will have found themself in all three of those conditions at one time or another. No one is perfect and growing up takes time. One thing is sure though, the older we get the easier acceptance becomes, of all things. Everyone is different and three catagories does not cover human psychology at all. But it is a basic mould of three behaviour patterns that dominate any hot blooded society.So what are ya, complainer, excuser or accepter?
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