Making Sense of the New Health Care Rules

[rogwar]

https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_utils/McStaticPages?key=advice_health_care_2010

Use this simple timeline to understand what the changes mean to you and when they're rolling out.


Very helpful...this is the best overview I have seen on how it will affect me in terms of health care. Saw it on another forum and since it's already done, just wanted to share the facts.

This is sharing info about health care and is not intended to start a political discussion.

[mensa180]

Good link, sending this to my (near retirement age) parents.

[DYNAMITE]

Nice find Rogwar 

[Shuffler]

Most businessmen I know will be culling the herd and putting a freeze on hiring.

People want healthcare..... but they don't want to pay for it. I have 5 employees who opted out of our health plan. To the man each said they could not afford their share of the payment. We pay our employees insurance 100% but they have to cover any additional family members they want covered. Also to the man when asked how much they would like to pay, they would not give a dollar amount. What that means is they want it free. The lowest paid of these employees still makes 45k a year.

Now everyone will have to pay for healthcare... want to or not. The only folks who truely benefit are the nonproductive members of our society. You can bet there will soon be many more of those.

[druski85]

Well, that thread made it 4 posts.  Thanks Rog, this is a good breakdown.

[Raptor]

Good post, if only people will control themselves.... I give it til the end of the day to be locked.

[Shuffler]

I had to lol at the 10% tax on indoor tanning. Says it is the first of several new taxes.

[Raptor]

I give it til the end of the day to be locked.

maybe sooner

[Delirium]

I had to lol at the 10% tax on indoor tanning. Says it is the first of several new taxes.

If anyone wants to tax things that aren't essential for day to day life, who cares? If you want it bad enough, you'll pay for it.

I'm sure you'll argue 'slippery slope', but the money for all these medical entitlements has to come from somewhere.

(for the record, I'm neither for nor against the new changes. If done properly, it could help a lot of people but rarely is anything done correctly in a government bureaucracy, regardless of which party/political view is in control.)

[katanaso]

If anyone wants to tax things that aren't essential for day to day life, who cares? If you want it bad enough, you'll pay for it.

I know...this isn't the right topic, but I just wanted to reply with a point of view:  Who decides what is essential for day to day life, and what to tax?

The argument could be that tanning is essential to John Smith's daily life because it does something positive for his emotional well being.  He may have a disposition for some type of depression when he's pale, so he tans, and it makes him happy.

Yeah, it's a stretch, but I wouldn't be surprised if you see this type of argument going to the courts for any of the "sin taxes" that we're going to have.

Thanks for the link in the original post.

mir

[AWwrgwy]

Most businessmen I know will be culling the herd and putting a freeze on hiring.

People want healthcare..... but they don't want to pay for it. I have 5 employees who opted out of our health plan. To the man each said they could not afford their share of the payment. We pay our employees insurance 100% but they have to cover any additional family members they want covered. Also to the man when asked how much they would like to pay, they would not give a dollar amount. What that means is they want it free. The lowest paid of these employees still makes 45k a year.

Now everyone will have to pay for healthcare... want to or not. The only folks who truely benefit are the nonproductive members of our society. You can bet there will soon be many more of those.

That's true of everything though.  Schools, roads, military.  It's so much easier if you just don't know what you're actually paying for.

I assume if those above employees who are opting out need health care they then become "The only folks who truely benefit are the nonproductive members of our society"?



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wrongway

[Jayhawk]

And here we go!

[Shuffler]

I assume if those above employees who are opting out need health care they then become "The only folks who truely benefit are the nonproductive members of our society"?

wrongway

They pay their own bill.

The non-productive is just that... those that do not want to work.  They live off of the sweat of others on their handouts.

[AAJagerX]

INcredible.

[Skuzzy]

Yep, this one is going to die on the vine as there is no way you can discuss this without bringing up politics.  I'll give it another hour.