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Offline 2bighorn

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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2010, 03:45:51 PM »
Historic match up of ACs, little to no winning, pitching, and accusing, maps the same as special event maps, no env value, no worries of losing perk points

Again, why do you think DA lake guys would like that?


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Convince HTC to publish AVA rankings on end of each tour like it does with other arenas, on AH home page.
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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2010, 03:46:50 PM »
I seriously don't think the DA Lake types will like the straight up fights in the AVA. It will appeal to folks who like the classic matchups.

they may....but they'll never know till they get a taste of it.
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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2010, 03:57:51 PM »
don't want to turn this into a flame-fest, but capt1ma has a good idea here. nothing wrong with his "marketing"

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Bighorn hit it right on the nose about the marketing.  #1 rule in marketing is to engage the audience.  Inferring that they are mindless does not do that.

His propaganda (AAR Write-ups, etc), however, used to be remarkably entertaining and well written.  I haven't seen any in a while...
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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2010, 04:09:42 PM »
nothing normally, but there's a couple guys trying very hard to revitalize the ava arena....and a flame-fest would hurt that........ :aok

Well, if they listened to what people want, they would not have to revitalize it.  If the no icons is what the people want, well, why isn't the place full?
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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2010, 04:10:12 PM »
Bighorn hit it right on the nose about the marketing.  #1 rule in marketing is to engage the audience.  Inferring that they are mindless does not do that.

His propaganda (AAR Write-ups, etc), however, used to be remarkably entertaining and well written.  I haven't seen any in a while...

i actually miss those write ups.
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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2010, 04:37:22 PM »
Maybe we could get a historical jousting setup on AvA. 

See this thread for more information:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,294958.90.html

Feel free to discuss.  :aok

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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2010, 04:40:33 PM »
Maybe we could get a historical jousting setup on AvA. 

See this thread for more information:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,294958.90.html

Feel free to discuss.  :aok

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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2010, 04:41:11 PM »
The thing that ruins the DA is the retards in the bowl that decide to go to 25k... ie rooks and bish primarily.

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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2010, 04:50:31 PM »
The thing that ruins the DA is the retards in the bowl that decide to go to 25k... ie rooks and bish primarily.

-BigBOBCH

well....if they're going for historic type of fights.....didn't most air combat over europe happen at 20k+?
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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2010, 04:53:07 PM »
well....if they're going for historic type of fights.....didn't most air combat over europe happen at 20k+?

you can have history, or you can have players in the arena.  The MA is proof that you cant have both lol
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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2010, 05:02:50 PM »
well....if they're going for historic type of fights.....didn't most air combat over europe happen at 20k+?

Its different when all they do is sit there and BnZ for 20 min.....and wont even come fight...you should go straight off the base: 5-6k


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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2010, 05:10:19 PM »
Its different when all they do is sit there and BnZ for 20 min.....and wont even come fight...you should go straight off the base: 5-6k


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That is was Jeager1 is trying to get ppl to come to the AVA.  you are match up with a certain time-line of historic fight.  No AC that was in combat in 1942 up against a AC that came out in 1945.  Hence why some people fly 20K over the fur ball if they are flying a out dated AC
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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2010, 05:34:02 PM »
That is was Jeager1 is trying to get ppl to come to the AVA.  you are match up with a certain time-line of historic fight.  No AC that was in combat in 1942 up against a AC that came out in 1945.  Hence why some people fly 20K over the fur ball if they are flying a out dated AC

But in AvA I wont get to fly my Yak-9U  :(

And most ppl BnZ in DA in a F4U-1C or Typhoon, so

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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2010, 06:15:02 PM »
I thoroughly enjoy the AvA but I tend to only go in there when the P38 is available. They have a tendency to go off on extended non US tangents and run 6 weeks of FinRUS and tank battles and I pretty much forget to check the setups in the AvA after a while.

I also enjoy the DA. Its an easy fight to find and the best place for a quick flying fix.

The MA's are the hardest place to find a fight. 300 people on average and difficulty finding a aerial battle. The terrains are too big with GV's and Ships competing for players attentions. Since GV's and Ships are here to stay the terrains need to shrink to condense the fight.

And those faulting the marketing attempt are absolutely correct.

I love the no icon AvA but I also enjoy the DA. Implying the AvA is somehow less mindless than anything else in this game was a poor marketing line.

There is only one good marketing line in any game.

Fun!

Everyone defines fun differently. Tell people how they can have fun in the AvA and you might get some results.

But I can tell you that 6 weeks of FinRus GV tank wars is not going to pull anybody out of the MA, DA, TA, or offline jeep driving practice.

Commit to popular airplane matchups and keep repeating them and make the esoteric rare. Oh...and post a schedule on the calendar.

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Re: Attention Duelling Arena pilots
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2010, 06:24:02 PM »
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[glove slap]I challenge thee! [/glove slap]

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