What if we have titanic tuesdays everyday?

[Lusche]

I'm sorry, I have to disagree, I did not experience that at all.

Bad times can happen with big arenas too. It's not that I have never logged out of a TiTue because somehow it all sucked
But most of the time, for most players, the chances are much higher they find what they are looking for in an arena with 250 players than one with 100. Dying battles and having only occasional single cons here & there are pretty much standard when caps kick in.

the caps may have worked with the numbers we once had... both LW arenas were filling up more quickly, and reached satisfactory numbers relatively fast.
But now they are just splitting up 150-200 players into two arenas for many hours.

I just wanted to log on to get a bit of playtime before the caps kick in. We have 75 players in LWO. I have never ever seen number so low at this time before, not too long ago I would have expected about 150. Seeing that TT has finally ended, I guess it will get ugly again when caps kick in in about 2 hours... 

[Dr_Death8]

I'm sorry, I have to disagree, I did not experience that at all. By 12:30PST it was dead. Perweeb and I were cruzing around looking for any fight we could find, and after 10 min of attacking virtually undefended targets, I logged out of boredom (there were only 2 people, if I recall correctly, defending a CV).

So 1230AM PST is what 0430AM EST, on a Thursday morning?? How many people were on? How many people are normally on at 1230AM PST on a Wednesday night / Thursday morning when the LW is split? Also consider that there was no info or statements from the HTC gang that they were going to extend TT....

I was on from about 2030-2230 EST and had a blast with no issues finding a great fight. Between GV attacking and defending we were all having fun. I even took up a K14 and threw taters at some bombers.  When I logged in, there were about 395 in the TT and probably another 50 or so in the other arenas. 

[Yossarian]

What is this 'cesspool' that everyone's speaking of?

From my perspective, TT was always the most fun time of the week to fly.  Flying with caps generally isn't that fun.  It either: deprives you of a fight, prevents you from flying with a squad, prevents you from having fun, or prevents you from doing what you want to do in the game (and it should be pointed out that doing what we want to do in AH is why we play).  I remember several occasions when I was in one arena with 30 people, with absolutely jack-all to do (except perhaps a few micro-furballs, which generally evaporated by the time you got to their location anyway), and all my squaddies were in the other arena saying how much fun it was.  Seriously, wtf?  Would it not make more sense to at least change the times the caps kick in?

As far as caps go, I'll withhold judgement until I work out what that abhorred 'cesspool' thingey is.  But until then, I think Lusche pointed out  something pretty interesting.

[Lusche]

I just wanted to log on to get a bit of playtime before the caps kick in. We have 75 players in LWO. I have never ever seen number so low at this time before, not too long ago I would have expected about 150. Seeing that TT has finally ended, I guess it will get ugly again when caps kick in in about 2 hours...  

It's worse than I expected. 7 pm and only 128 players on Ozkansas when caps kicked in (We used to have about 200). Gonna be a fun evening without AH

[Wiley]

What is this 'cesspool' that everyone's speaking of?

The basic gist of the 'cesspool' people refer to is at some point in the past, there was one LW arena.  It was basically TT all the time.  HTC wasn't retaining people like they'd like, and the reason they determined was because the arena had too many people in it.  I'm not sure of the specifics, something along the lines of they didn't really have a chance to make good friends with anybody with that big of a crowd, or somesuch.  It also apparently encouraged a 'cesspool of bad gameplay' that wasn't as bad with two smaller arenas.  They split the arenas and implemented the capping system, and their retention

That's the reader's digest version, anyways.

Wiley.

[CHAPPY]

2 LW Arena's = Better business for HTC 

[Wobbly]

It's worse than I expected. 7 pm and only 128 players on Ozkansas when caps kicked in (We used to have about 200). Gonna be a fun evening without AH

yes, numbers down during the USA day , euro evening (= me), HTC, please push caps back, seriously, my patience is wearing thin on this.

[Lusche]

Found some old data on the arena numbers from February 2009. I put them into a combined chart for comparison purposes.
Both sets of data were taken on a friday:





As you can see, both in 2009 as well as now the LWO population is taking a hit when caps kick in, but in 2009 the numbers are recovering pretty quick, while today they stay low at 100.

[LLogann]

There is good and bad in Titanic Tuesday really..................... And I appreciate both sides of it.  Titanic Tuesday is basically a furball day, or so it seems.  Look at the battle of V14/P15 (Knits/Bish) the last two days..... Nonstop over and over again.  I personally lost 4 Tiger's there, 2 to Floatsup that bum.  For 48 hours the battle just kept on going with 3 base takes in there.  But that's the other side of the game right?  Basetaking strategies?  On Titanic Tuesday it is increasingly difficult for anybody who doesn't want to just furball to get enjoyment out of the game. 

[Ardy123]

So 1230AM PST is what 0430AM EST, on a Thursday morning?? How many people were on? How many people are normally on at 1230AM PST on a Wednesday night / Thursday morning when the LW is split? Also consider that there was no info or statements from the HTC gang that they were going to extend TT....

I was on from about 2030-2230 EST and had a blast with no issues finding a great fight. Between GV attacking and defending we were all having fun. I even took up a K14 and threw taters at some bombers.  When I logged in, there were about 395 in the TT and probably another 50 or so in the other arenas. 

Sorry, 12:30 AM PST is 3:30 AM EST. so its only 30- 60 min difference between our observations. I don't have exact numbers but I have noticed a reduction in numbers from say, a year and a half ago, and that I find disturbing. There were around 100 in the TT arena (whom many didn't seem to be playing the game), and there was one 1 in the da.

In the past, there used to be about a 1 hour lul, around 11:30-12:30 PST, then the Australians, Japanese and some Eruo players would start logging in, but I don't seem them as much .

[Lusche]

On Titanic Tuesday it is increasingly difficult for anybody who doesn't want to just furball to get enjoyment out of the game. 

I absolutetly disagree. TT is the day I usually have the best and most diverese options in gamplay. Tanking, bombing, defending bases, helping to capture one, furballs, tankbustin' in my Hurri IID, or hunting high altitude buffs... having a choice about every sortie.

[Ardy123]

I absolutetly disagree. TT is the day I usually have the best and most diverese options in gamplay. Tanking, bombing, defending bases, helping to capture one, furballs, tankbustin' in my Hurri IID, or hunting high altitude buffs... having a choice about every sortie.

Luche, its all about timing. I have had the opportunity to occasionally log in at 6 PM PST and I have noticed exactly what you are talking about. For example, this weeks TT was a lot of fun around that time. Lots and lots of fights, enormous bomber runs, etc... but if you logged in later, you would find an empty arena with few people doing anything.

Maybe what is happening is we have maintained or even grew the customer base around the East coast of the US and possible western Europe but some how have been loosing customers in the western half of the world, such as Australia, Japan, S. Korea, etc... Frankly I have no idea.

[CDR1]

I agree with Luche, TT usually has many different strategies playing out, a quick study of the map and you can find what floats your boat. :Last night there were a few squads trying to run a string of V bases with good determination. 5-7 rooks including me fought them hard and it was great fun for everyone. It all went away around 11:30 PM CST as people logged. I remember from the time I was in Squads the difficulty we all had with matching play time for folks in many countries. We never had much luck "passing on a successful campaign". No idea how to solve that problem keep it fun.

[1Boner]

If the numbers are down, I say we make the bases harder to take, maybe that'll bring in more people.

[Lusche]

2 hours after cap kicked in..

100/100
30/150