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Offline druski85

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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2011, 02:38:11 PM »
You guys busy?   :D

Not any more!  Besides, I think I feel this sickness coming on...   :cheers:

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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2011, 03:15:07 PM »
Holy Cow man.... this ranger IPA clone is a really IPA IPA.... damn.

OK, so here is my AAR from my first all grain brew attempt.

1.  Getting your mash to a specific temperature is far more difficult than I anticipated, specifically keeping the ratio of water to grain at 1qt per lb or so.  I found that just by adding the water, I had a 20 degree drop in temperature off of what my water started at.  This was way more than I expected.  Lesson learned was go hot, then cool rather than go cool then hot. 

2.  I vorlaufted (I hope that is right spelling) the mash.  I bought a 9 dollar drill mounted pump and recirculated the fluid at a very slow GPM.  The issue I had was the tubing I used walls did not hold up to the pressure when subjected to the heat of the mash.  So, I bought thicker wall tubing for the next batch.

3.  Sparging the grain was not to difficult since I made a "rain" fitting thingy on the top of my tun.  The water enters a series of copper tubes and sprinkles across the entire tun instead of just dripping in a specific spot.

In general, I just don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze when it comes to all grain versus extract brewing.  Since this is such a powerful, hoppy recipe, I really don't know.  My recommendation would be for someone to take their favorite extract recipe and do it all grain and then contrast.  I did an entirely new beer and category I usually do not brew so I have no frame of reference as to whether it is better than extract or not. 

Deuces.....  :cheers:

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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #77 on: February 07, 2011, 05:44:03 PM »
Just pulled the trigger on 440 lbs of grain  :rock

(55lb bags each)

(2) pale malt

(2) pilsner malt

(2) wheat malt

(2) munich malt

You guys busy?   :D

Hell no, find me the next flight over.  :D  :aok  (very jealous)
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2011, 08:05:52 PM »
Holy Cow man.... this ranger IPA clone is a really IPA IPA.... damn.

OK, so here is my AAR from my first all grain brew attempt.

1.  Getting your mash to a specific temperature is far more difficult than I anticipated, specifically keeping the ratio of water to grain at 1qt per lb or so.  I found that just by adding the water, I had a 20 degree drop in temperature off of what my water started at.  This was way more than I expected.  Lesson learned was go hot, then cool rather than go cool then hot.  

2.  I vorlaufted (I hope that is right spelling) the mash.  I bought a 9 dollar drill mounted pump and recirculated the fluid at a very slow GPM.  The issue I had was the tubing I used walls did not hold up to the pressure when subjected to the heat of the mash.  So, I bought thicker wall tubing for the next batch.

3.  Sparging the grain was not to difficult since I made a "rain" fitting thingy on the top of my tun.  The water enters a series of copper tubes and sprinkles across the entire tun instead of just dripping in a specific spot.

In general, I just don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze when it comes to all grain versus extract brewing.  Since this is such a powerful, hoppy recipe, I really don't know.  My recommendation would be for someone to take their favorite extract recipe and do it all grain and then contrast.  I did an entirely new beer and category I usually do not brew so I have no frame of reference as to whether it is better than extract or not.  

Deuces.....  :cheers:



Gravity is free  :)

I won't lie.  It takes a bit of investment when doing all-grain.  Especially in volume.  I have 60 gallons to make for two different weddings by June  I will not even say that it makes "better" beer, but the flexibility is limitless, especially when trying to dial in on something you really are aiming for. It is also cheaper in the long run.  This recent grain bill buy cost me about 50 cents/lb, including shipping.  There is also "the smell" when mashing grains.  Like a slice of heaven.

Stick with it.  Use silicone tubing.  (feels like fake boobs)  

As long as the level of sparge water stays above the level of the gain, it is not paramount that it is sprinkled evenly.  The bottom manifold has more bearing on this than anything.

Thermodynamics is a biatch, isn't it?  :)

Are you using brewing software?  If so, which?
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2011, 12:04:06 PM »
Man no I don't use software.  Not yet at any rate.  Also my batches have to be smaller because I move around quite a bit (I am in the army).  So, my brew footprint can't be too big...at least until I retire. :banana:

is there a software out there for the layman?
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #80 on: February 08, 2011, 12:10:30 PM »
Man no I don't use software.  Not yet at any rate.  Also my batches have to be smaller because I move around quite a bit (I am in the army).  So, my brew footprint can't be too big...at least until I retire. :banana:

is there a software out there for the layman?


ProMash (not crazy about it)

Beersmith (free trial for 30 days, $20 for license and VERY user friendly with good support)  It does all the temp. and volume  calculations for you depending on what you tell it you are using for equipment.  It is absolutely worth the $20.
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #81 on: February 11, 2011, 11:42:07 PM »
Here we go! My first attempt will be brewing a Lager. Did this all before FSO tonight. I have an unheated back porch room, which maintains a pretty good temp for the Ferment and the Conditioning when its cold, but Spring is approaching so in the meanwhile I am on the hunt for a cheap fridge in the Papers.




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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2011, 12:41:05 AM »
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #83 on: February 18, 2011, 07:01:57 AM »
Oh, HELL yeah !   :x    :x    :x    :rock    :rock    :rock









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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #84 on: February 18, 2011, 07:49:38 AM »
That is freaking awesome Von!  :banana:

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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #85 on: February 18, 2011, 08:21:29 AM »
Perhaps one day...   :pray

I've got a lot of maintenance to do on the system which depends on the expediency of my welder buddy.  I need some more fittings welded into my kegs as my ex-immersion chiller is going to become my new HERMS coil in the HLT.  I can TIG weld, but I'm not yet proficient at doing sanitary welds on stainless.  I don't want rusty welds  :cry  He does it all day long at various food plants in the area   :rock

I also want to cut down the legs on the brewing stand as I am a short F-er and get tired of standing on my tip-toes to look inside the boil kettle (which also puts me really close to the flames)

It's been about 14 months of testing since I've put the system together and I've got a good idea of some changes that need to be made.  Since a lot of the brewing process is hurry-up-and-wait, I'm trying to make the system require less of my attention so I can make beer AND airplane parts at the same time  :rock
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #86 on: February 18, 2011, 09:12:06 AM »
Here we go! My first attempt will be brewing a Lager. Did this all before FSO tonight. I have an unheated back porch room, which maintains a pretty good temp for the Ferment and the Conditioning when its cold, but Spring is approaching so in the meanwhile I am on the hunt for a cheap fridge in the Papers.



You can also use a freezer.  I had one donated to me a while back and then bought a 110v commercial t-stat that I mounted to the outside and just ran the sensing bulb through a small hole I drilled in the side of the freezer. 

The freezer finally died after 30 years of service so I have the t-stat I can donate if needed.
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #87 on: February 18, 2011, 10:06:27 AM »
You can also use a freezer.  I had one donated to me a while back and then bought a 110v commercial t-stat that I mounted to the outside and just ran the sensing bulb through a small hole I drilled in the side of the freezer. 

The freezer finally died after 30 years of service so I have the t-stat I can donate if needed.

Where did you get it?  I'm looking to buy/build one.  I've already got the fridge.
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #88 on: February 18, 2011, 10:42:32 AM »
You can also use a freezer.  I had one donated to me a while back and then bought a 110v commercial t-stat that I mounted to the outside and just ran the sensing bulb through a small hole I drilled in the side of the freezer. 

The freezer finally died after 30 years of service so I have the t-stat I can donate if needed.

I might take you up on the offer if I get a freezer. But I'll probably get a fridge, So hopefully I will not to have to install a separate T-Stat.

My Lager is now fermenting great, So while I wait for that I will start an Ale of some sort. Heading over to the Brew Supply Store today.
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Re: Upgrading My Beer Making Stuff
« Reply #89 on: February 18, 2011, 12:35:44 PM »
Where did you get it?  I'm looking to buy/build one.  I've already got the fridge.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#1846K26

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My cord was long enough to where I mounted the t-stat on the side of the cabinet, ran the cord to it, cut to length, then use the remaining to run to the outlet.  

Using this method actually turn the power to the unit on/off.  So if it's not calling for cooling, the inside light won't work either.  I suppose you could run 2 plugs, one for light and then run just the compressor through the t-stat, but since I had a freezer without a light anyhoo, I did it the simple way.

I also had 1 of these because the t-stat isn't marked very well, I'm a sucker for redundancy, and I broke/lost the knob  :cry

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