WWI Arena Attractions

[cooldued]

2 + 2 = I'm in

[CptTrips]

Oh you just KNOW that if they integrated the WWI Furball Lake onto the same map as the regular DA, SOME tool is going to take the time to get an F4U-4 or Tempest in there.

I know there are tools who'd want to try.

But you can make those mountains AWWWWWWWFULLY high in the terrain editor.  

Besides, some tool in a Tempest diving in on Raven in a D7 is almost a fair fight.  If you give the Temp enough alt. 

Regards,
Wab

[CptTrips]

Dbl post

[F6Fraven]

If there were a dogfighting WW1 and a WW1 MA you know no one would be in the dogfighting arena. So that would pretty much be taking away the only pure dogfighting arena we have, not counting the Dueling Arena. And I'm not speaking for everyone in the arena but most of them enjoy the way it is right now, that's why the same people have come back month after month. So why change the arena for people who tried it out and decided they didn't like it when there's at least 50 people who were loyal to it and like it the way it is?

[Saxman]

Because, and apparently you didn't notice, there ARE people who's like to fly WWI aircraft but also want more to do than turn-fights in Dr.Is.

[Lusche]

Isn't that a self contradicting statement?

If there were a dogfighting WW1 and a WW1 MA you know no one would be in the dogfighting arena. So that would pretty much be taking away the only pure dogfighting arena we have, not counting the Dueling Arena. And I'm not speaking for everyone in the arena but most of them enjoy the way it is right now, that's why the same people have come back month after month. So why change the arena for people who tried it out and decided they didn't like it when there's at least 50 people who were loyal to it and like it the way it is?

So if there were a "dogfight" and a "MA" WW1 arena.. why would those 50 not be in the dogfight arena anymore?

[CptTrips]

If there were a dogfighting WW1 and a WW1 MA you know no one would be in the dogfighting arena. So that would pretty much be taking away the only pure dogfighting arena we have, not counting the Dueling Arena. And I'm not speaking for everyone in the arena but most of them enjoy the way it is right now, that's why the same people have come back month after month. So why change the arena for people who tried it out and decided they didn't like it when there's at least 50 people who were loyal to it and like it the way it is?

Raven,

First, with respect, if there are 50 players who truely prefer the dogfight-only format, and that format would stilll be available in the DA in an area isolated for WWI planes, then there should be no problem.  They'll just move the party there.

If the dogfight-only format is prefered, the existence of a WWI MA shouldn't tempt them.

What I think you are really saying, is there are 50 players with an interest in flying WWI aircraft and currently, the dog-fight only arena is the only option they have.  What you are saying is you think that given a choice, they would choose the strat enabled format in a heartbeat.  That's illuminating, isn't it?

If moving to the DA bothers you, lets say the current WWI arena stays just the way it is now.  Exactly the same.

Just next to it, we create a strat-enabled WWI MA arena.

Would that be acceptable?

Regards,
Wab

[F6Fraven]

You're saying that next to our little fenced in dogfighting playground is an area for people to fly to a strat untouched, bomb it, fly back and then get their name in lights for bomber damage when other people are sweating it out fighting in the trees against DR1's?

[Lusche]

You're saying that next to our little fenced in dogfighting playground is an area for people to fly to a strat untouched, bomb it, fly back and then get their name in lights for bomber damage when other people are sweating it out fighting in the trees against DR1's?

You basically assumed such a setup yourself  in your first sentence in your previous statement.

If there were a dogfighting WW1 and a WW1 MA you know no one would be in the dogfighting arena.

[F6Fraven]

An arena with 4 fighters and a few bombers and strats would most likely get more people in it than a pure dogfighting arena with only 4 planes, I have no problem admitting that.

[Lusche]

An arena with 4 fighters and a few bombers and strats would most likely get more people in it than a pure dogfighting arena with only 4 planes, I have no problem admitting that.

But if the pure dogfight arena would still be available.. how would that hurt the (assumed) 50 dedicated dogfighters there?

[F6Fraven]

Because I'm sure many of them would rather go into an arena filled with 20 or 30 people vs. an arena with 2.

[CptTrips]

You're saying that next to our little fenced in dogfighting playground is an area for people to fly to a strat untouched, bomb it, fly back and then get their name in lights for bomber damage when other people are sweating it out fighting in the trees against DR1's?

Raven,

Sorry, I think I might not have been clear.

I am suggesting 2 separate arenas.  

The dogfight-only arena is the one we have now.  It would remain unchanged.  Keep it EXACTLY the way it is now.  Fine-and-dandy.

Next to it on the arena list a player can select "WWI MA".

A separate arena.  
Bases that CAN be attacked with Gotha bombers and fighters with 2x20lbs bombs.  Hangars that CAN be destroyed.  
Factories behind the lines to be bombed to reduce supplies for rebuild.
Observation ballon networks (like radar) that can be destroyed to open gaps in the enemy dar.
Maybe some WWI tanks that can spawn in no-mans-land to duke it out.
Observation planes that if are able to loiter in area long enough brings in artillery strikes to bases and strat targets.
Zepplins behind the lines that function like country dar.
Observation planes get escorted.  SPADS scramble to intercept bombers and observ planes.  There will be plenty of furballs generated from all this activity.  Only at different alts.  Different plane mixed depending on mission type.  Action.  Variety.  
etc, etc.

The possibllities are endless.


Goal-Oriented-Combat.


Put that up next to the dogfight-only arena and let the marketplace decide which is the prefered format.

Regards,
Wab

[Lusche]

Because I'm sure many of them would rather go into an arena filled with 20 or 30 people vs. an arena with 2.

In other words: They are not that dedicated at all. Because contrary to your first post, nobody would have taken anything away from them, or force them to the MAWW1 arena.
So better don't give them the choice

[CptTrips]

Because I'm sure many of them would rather go into an arena filled with 20 or 30 people vs. an arena with 2.

But the MA arena would only have 20-30 people IF they prefer the strat-enabled arena.  That is the point.  

I assert that most players don't want a dogfight-only arena.  They want a full-featured arena.  They want the depth of gameplay they've becomes used to in the WWII arena, but with WWI planes.

I think you believe that too, even if you personally don't agree.

I think you would find there would still be plenty of dogfights in the strat arena.  Maybe more, because there would be more people.


Wab